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PalmSource Talks About PalmOS 6.0
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timothy
on Thu Oct 31, 2002 12:45 AM
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from the bits-n-whistles dept.
stevejsmith writes "The Register has released an article regarding PalmSource speaking about their next OS, PalmOS 6.0. The Register says, 'Version 6.0 will be as dramatic a change for the platform as OS X was for Apple, or NT was for Microsoft...', that it will actually include some source code of BeOS, and that will support Microsoft's .NET platform, among other things."
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Swappable... (Score:5, Insightful)
While I like the graffiti on my Visor Deluxe, it would nice if someone could design an interface with all the graffiti symbols that could 'learn' what I mean, the way a speak recognition program does. I have sloppy writing and it's takes me too long to enter in all my assignments.
Re:Swappable... (Score:4, Informative)
hacks (Score:3, Insightful)
Version 6.0 will be as dramatic a change for the platform as OS X was for Apple, or NT was for Microsoft, and represents the culmination of work from the former Be team Palm acquired last year.
get a bunch of talented developers, innovations will follow.
On the other hand, i am interested to know if 6.0 would have any backward compatibility & run the apps i currently have(NT/OS X had little to no support for apps running on previous versions)
PalmOS 6 = good (Score:5, Interesting)
Palm will most likely have optimized builds for different chips used. the new ARM should have its own build, the old ARM, XScale, etc.
i have heard rumors that palm6 will also be using by sony in some upcomming set top boxes with 'tivo'like features, and with the BeOS technology we should get a nice smooth and quick interface with great media abilities.
Quite Advanced (Score:2)
no be source (Score:3, Informative)
OSX XP? (Score:1, Interesting)
Low-latency audio, anyone? (Score:1)
It'd be great to be able to sample cool sounds on the move and mangle those into even cooler sounds during the bus trip home.
I'm sure I'd have lot's more good stuff on my home page with a thing like that
Sound familiar? (Score:1)
Didn't Apple computer make these claims in the early/mid 90's?
.NET runtime support (Score:1)
Palm OS 6 - too little, too late? (Score:4, Insightful)
By the time they actually get around to delivering it, the goalposts will have changed (by the likes of Symbian and Microsoft) and Palm will have to play catch up again.
On a side note, releasing the Tungstun W (phone one) with OS 4 was a monumentally stupid thing to do. If they're going to commit to OS 5, then they should do immediately - not release two new phones with one running the old OS.
Go to OS 5. Don't look back. Encourage developers to code for OS 5, encourage users who want the power to upgrade. If they're going to release a trickle of OS 4 PDA's then developers will just stick to OS 4.
Oh yes, and the Tungstun slidely thing is silly. I'm going to have to spend my entire time opening and retracting it as I use grafitti a lot - which means it'll break quickly. We need to see sexy and desirable PDA's come onto the market to persuade people to upgrade. This one doesn't (maybe Sony will) ... and for god's sake, even with the low memory requirements of apps, 32 meg is peanuts! Your apps may be smaller than PPC's, but the size of your data is going to be the same.
On a final note, I wonder if OS 6 will actually appear. OS 5 could be make-or-break for Palm. If there is no interest (after all, it doesn't *look* any different and thats what Joe Blow will see) then it'll hurt them very very badly.
new and improved (Score:3, Insightful)
Biometrics instead of Graffiti? (Score:1)
Which means that licensees can swap out the Graffiti input mechanism for an alternative, such as biometrics.
Wow, so instead of writing characters to input text, I can do it with my fingerprint, retina pattern, heart rate, etc.? That's so cool!
[For the humor-impaired, that's a joke]
Multilingual capabilities? (Score:1)
Anyone know what multilingual capabilities the new OS will have, i.e. character encoding support, fonts, locale-specific formatting, bidi, etc.? As far as encodings go, it would be great to see some Unicode support built in (UTF-8 or UCS-2, depending on available memory and language priorities).
I know that older versions of the OS were 8-bit (for European languages), which is fine except that you can't mix languages supported by different encoding families (can't build that killer multilingual dictionary for the Palm!).
for sale: Be developers? (Score:1)
All right... (Score:3, Funny)
All right... PalmOS 5 it is... (no that is not a typo).
PalmOS on Win PocketPC hardware (Score:2)
It would be even cooler if they could manage to get it to dual boot. But I'd settle for one or the other. This would be great for people who's companies insist that they buy WinCE devices. They could just buy them and then buy PalmOS for it.
from today's NYTimes (Score:1)
great idea.. (Score:1)
PalmOS6 on the other hand, will still be able to run on more modest hardware. I would hope that a XScale400Mhz wouold be enough.
and to be ablke to install PalmOS6 onto my e740 and bring it up to current would be great.
Uh Oh (Score:1)
Since day 1 I've been using address book, calender, and to some degree the to-do lists and memos. The only other thing that I've ever found to be even vaguely interesting since then is the Zagat restaurant software.
I've seen a ton of other potential uses for Palms that failed -- for viewing medical records, for example. I suspect that anything small enough to fit in a pocket is too small to do many things with.
On the other hand, I've seen Microsoft, a very smart and successful company, repeatedly try to top Palm -- only to get killed by overly-complexifying Win CE.
So I wince whenen I hear that Palm is looking to add complexitity a la Win CE. I hope Palm keeps it simple! If they must add complexity, I hope that the basic things that Palms are good for do not become bloated.
Smartphone OS? (Score:1)
Ver.. what? (Score:1)
Palm was making major releases once every few years. Thats how in all this time palm os has only gotten to ver 3 then palm releases palm os 4. Well thats about on time. 5 ok major platform change justifyed. 6... ok now we've just dubbled the major version number inside a year.
I like palm I really do. It's a small business tool. I'm posting to
But maybe that last example is the point. My Visor's not as trubblesom as her palm.
And people want movie and mp3 players etc. I don't see the big deal not like the screen on a pocket pc is any bigger.
I'll stick with my visor for now becouse I can't see myself forking over for a WinCE or Linux PDA just yet.
There are few who want Windows or Linux on a PDA but then that number is dropping...
Maybe I'll ger a Dragonix next time.
Last Post! (Score:1)
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Re:So does this... (Score:5, Interesting)
Lindows has been around for, how long? The hype for Lindows, and other products that don't live up to it, won't last, and such products go away over time. Palm has proven itself by the large number of happy users, even when more "flashy" alternatives are available (WinCE, PocketPC, Clie, iPaq, etc.). Palm 6.0, and for that matter Palm 5.0 (which has not yet been released), are evolutionary.
If all you can think to put on your Palm is addresses, then maybe it's just something that isn't right for your lifestyle. There isn't a whole lot more truly practical things that any Palm-type device will ever be able to do, although maybe people in your situation will be tempted by multimedia offerings ("Ooh, look, I've got this pretty picture on my little 3-inch screen"). I suppose that the goals of all future Palm releases will mainly center around attracting users such as yourself, who need a look-at-this-cool-gadget-that-plays-songs excuse to justify the cost.
My point is, if you don't think Palm has already lived up to the hype, then there probably won't be a lot more in the way of everyday, practical, dayplanner-replacement features coming. Maybe you'd be better off with a paper notebook, a gameboy, and a cell phone
Re:Get some PRIORITIES! (Score:4, Funny)
You forgot to mention that Steven King died again today.
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