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It works for me... (Score:2)
by Dilbert_ (maarten.schenk@nospam.planetinternet.be) on Saturday December 25, @10:16AM EST (#2)
(User Info) http://home.planetinternet.be/~honcho/bug
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I'm in Belgium, it is now 17.23, and hotmail works.
Bezoek WeeWeeWee, een Nederlandstalige Slashdot in wording ! |
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Re:It works for me... (Score:1)
by tpck (cryptid@golden.net) on Saturday December 25, @10:17AM EST (#4)
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I'm in Canada, it is now 11:22 AM, and hotmail don't work. :)
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NSI is too comfortable... (Score:1)
by Krimsen (krimsen@acm.org) on Saturday December 25, @10:51AM EST (#36)
(User Info) http://www.3113.com
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New Jersey, USA 11:49am and it works fine.
I remember when I had a problem with my domain, it took over 1 month to get it resolved due to Network Solutions' lack of responsiveness. This goes to show that NSI is not really overburdened, but complacent because they have no real competition. They have the resources to fix things on time - they just don't give a $#!+ because "where are you going to go?"...
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There are other registrars now! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @11:32AM EST (#77)
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Odd, though, that not one of them is located in a non-WIPO country? Coincidence or big gov't/corporate conspiracy?
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Re:It works for me... (Score:2)
by m3000 (m3000athotmail.com) on Saturday December 25, @11:07AM EST (#51)
(User Info) http://m3000.1wh.com/linux
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All 3 of my hotmail accounts are working/worked just fine. And I'm recieving mail, since I just got a confirmation mail for the MS Intillimouse Explorer I just bought with some Christmas money :)
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Re:It works for me... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @11:12AM EST (#58)
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hey, ho, the christmas rat..
oh, mouse, sorry.
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Re:It works for me... (Score:4, Funny)
by jarv (setuid_0@hotmail.com) on Saturday December 25, @11:16AM EST (#63)
(User Info) http://www.malchow.net
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IT'S ALL Y2K. JUST WAIT ANOTHER WEEK.
*EVERYTHING WILL BE DOWN*
THE APOCALYPSE IS NEAR.
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Re:It works for me... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 02, @01:30PM EST (#272)
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Get a life for goodness sake!
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Re:It does not work for me... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @05:43PM EST (#161)
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Hey I'm in Denmark, 00:39 an it I cant even get to the web site.. Merry Christmas
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Merry Christmas to all of you (Score:0, Offtopic)
by vluther (vluther@linuxpowered.com) on Saturday December 25, @10:17AM EST (#3)
(User Info) http://www.linuxpowered.com
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Merry Christmas.. off topic.. but hey it's christmas..so..have a good day.
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hotmail sUx0rZ (Score:1, Funny)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @10:20AM EST (#5)
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My brother can't get on hotmail either. Kinda funny, he came into my room to see if it would work in here, slashdot is my "home" page, so it loaded first. The ignorant brother ignored the loaded page, tried to go to hotmail, it doesn't work, complains at me. I go to check for myself, and there in BIG LETTERS on the already-loaded slashdot page is "Hotmail Not Working" Heh Merry Armageddon to all, and to all a good looting!
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Decent webmail? (Score:3, Interesting)
by chill on Saturday December 25, @10:20AM EST (#6)
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Netscape Webmail has been real flakey, too. I couldn't get in at all two days ago; the "premium services" have been "temporaily suspended" for a while now and just today when I tried to look up the message I saved with my Slashdot p/w it told me "message temporarily unavailable".
Does anyone have any opinions as to which webmail (Lycos, Yahoo, Netscape, Hotmail, OperaMail, etc.) is the best. By best I mean:
1. Reliable! 99.99% uptime!
2. Quick access.
3. Everything else (sub-folders, filters, etc.)
-chill
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by Anonymous Cowpoop on Saturday December 25, @10:43AM EST (#26)
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I use www.amexmail.com for my non-spam account (ie: the one I DONT advertize on slashdot). They have a deal with usa.net so its a nice short extention. They also offer POP and Web access, they go down occasionally for mainteance(sp?) from 1-5 in the morning (EST), and sub-folders, filters, etc.
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:2, Informative)
by pen (digdug@hotmail.com?subject=notspam:[subject]) on Saturday December 25, @11:04AM EST (#49)
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Here are a few decent choices: - HotPop - These give you a free POP3 and SMTP account, in exchange for "solicited mailings" (or basically, targeted and legal spam). The legal spam is infrequent, and the services is good. The only catch is that you must authenticate with POP before you mail out, which is a common anti-spam practice.
- Asian City Webmail - These give you a really nice webmail interface, along with a bunch of domains. I chose ramen.org.
- Netaddress - Just your average webmail. They also offer a POP3 account for a few bucks, which used to be free but undocumented. I haven't used them in a while, but they were good when I did.
Generally, Hotmail has been pretty good to me, but I only use it as a spam account. For real email, I use a POP3 account on a friend's box.
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:2, Informative)
by jawad (jawad@nycap.rr.com) on Saturday December 25, @11:20AM EST (#65)
(User Info) http://jawad.org/
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From HotPOP's page..
HotPOP is not currently accepting new users. Please try again at a later time.
Thank you.
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Yahoo (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @11:09AM EST (#55)
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Yahoo is real good. 100% uptime.
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Re:Yahoo (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @11:29AM EST (#75)
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Just turn off the frames, and its fast and easy!
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Re:Yahoo has better filters too. (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @12:14PM EST (#100)
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You can filter based on recipient addresses, which means you can filter out anybody who doesn't address you personally.
That cuts out 98% of the spam..
Hotmail is crap. I tried suggesting that filter method to them more than 2 years back and they never responded, did it many times too. So I gave up on them and switched to Yahoo.
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Re:Yahoo (Score:1)
by cloudmaster (cloudmaster@cloudmaster.com) on Saturday December 25, @01:59PM EST (#131)
(User Info) http://www.cloudmaster.com/cloudmaster
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They've got a nice, usable interface over at Yahoo too. I'm trying to get somewhat close to that on the web-mail system we're using at the school that pays my bills... Somehow I've gotten a higher level of respect for Yahoo since trying to emulate some of their better ideas. :)
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Re:Yahoo (Score:1)
by ken_i_m on Sunday December 26, @10:11AM EST (#217)
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I use a number of different services. Yahoo is my main one. It seems to be the most reliable with the least number of hoops to jump through. I have downloaded the Messenger and though the earlier versions were a bit buggy it seems to be more stable now. Well, at least, stable in comparison to my Wintel box. *grin* Blue use to be my favorite color.
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Re:Yahoo (Score:1)
by Alowishus (jpenix@rocketmail.com) on Saturday December 25, @02:26PM EST (#135)
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Yahoo! all the way. Fast as can be, no fancy HTML crap, and no downtime.
And if you use Yahoo! as your start page, there's a little box you can add to "My Yahoo" that tells you when you have new mail.
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by Trailer Trash (mdchaney@michaelchaney.com) on Saturday December 25, @11:35AM EST (#79)
(User Info) http://www.doublewide.net/
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try "myrealbox.com", which is a Novell service. I don't think they have subfolders, might want to check, but the rest is there. No frills, but quick and easy.
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MyRealBox.com (Score:3, Informative)
by Issue9mm (issue9mmAThotmailDOTnospamDOTcom) on Saturday December 25, @12:59PM EST (#116)
(User Info) http://issue9mm.freeservers.com/
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They do have subfolders... All in all, it's a pretty nice service... Really.
Don't like "Fir5t Po57 SucK45"? Check out the H4X0R'5 Guide To Slashdot. |
Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by Pope Slackman (slackFNORDman@cryoFNORDgen.com) on Saturday December 25, @11:55AM EST (#87)
(User Info) http://fnord.cjb.net
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GMX.net seems to be very good (have only been using it for ~3wks), and has POP access.
One possible catch: it's in German.
--Kevin
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"HELLO SMALL CHILD! WHO IS BACK! I HAVE THE RENEGADE MASTER WITH ME!"
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @12:21PM EST (#102)
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I use http://mail.spoiledbrat.com. It's run by a friend, fairly new and works well.
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @12:44PM EST (#109)
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http://www.cfmmail.com
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by quasipunk guy (tsunake at yahoo dot com) on Saturday December 25, @12:49PM EST (#110)
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I use Yahoo because you can get your mail via POP3 :)
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @01:42PM EST (#130)
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I use NewMail. They provide a HTML mail interface and offer POP access (no SMTP, however, I use my ISP's SMTP). Uptime is decent, with occasional POP outages. I'd give them a look, if you don't mind the fact they run NT.
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by churn on Saturday December 25, @03:05PM EST (#141)
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atdot.org . Free, reliable, perl, and open source.
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Blatant plug (Score:1)
by Benley (benley@quitspammingmeyoufrickinidiot.zoiks.net) on Saturday December 25, @04:03PM EST (#146)
(User Info) http://ben.indianvalley.com
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I like my email service, personally... www.zoiks.net.
It's nice and reliable, high uptime, filters, no spam, folders, etc, the works.
-- My threshold is set at -1. Post however the hell you like. |
Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by hautis (vhautaka@cs.FINLANDSCAPITAL.fi) on Saturday December 25, @04:44PM EST (#153)
(User Info) http://www.helsinki.fi/~vhautaka
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Another really flaky webmail service with a really terrible interface, poor programming ("you didn't log out last time you used this service, click here to fix this problem, blah blah") but a cool domain name, get a mail account here.
I used to have a spam address there, probably still have, but the downtimes are incredible and it's slow and they shove you screenfuls of smut ads.
NOSPAM@REMOVETHIS.NO.SPAM - you'll find the real address somewhere |
Re:Decent webmail? (Score:2, Informative)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @04:52PM EST (#155)
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Hi. Here's a list of webmail servers. Some are the same as what you listed (what you want to avoid), but I bet you'll find one you want to use from this list. http://www.2bmail.co.uk/ http://www.888.nu/ http://www.alloymail.com/member/login.page http://www.amexmail.com/ http://altavista.iname.com/member/login.page http://email.angelfire.com/ http://www.anti-social.com/ http://www.apexmail.com/ http://www.arcademaster.com/ http://www.artic.net/posti/ http://www.asiancityweb.com/ http://www.asiapoint.net/netroamer/nrmail/nrmail.cgi http://www.astrosfan.net/ http://www.backpackers.com/ http://www.basemail.com/ http://www.bboy.com/ http://www.bellsouth.com/ http://mail.bigassweb.com/ http://www.bimamail.com/index-en.html http://www.biz.st http://www.businessweekmail.com/login/businessweek.asp http://www.busymail.com/ http://WWW.Byteme.com/ http://www.casablancaresort.com/ENetMail/ http://www.ccnmail.com/ http://mail.chek.com/ http://www.chickmail.com/ http://www.chinalook.com/ http://www.christianmail.net/ http://www.clubvdo.net/ http://www.cmpnetmail.com http://email.cnnsi.com/member/login.page http://www.email.ro http://www.coldmail.com http://conk.com/mail/index.htm http://www.coolmail.com/ http://www.cynetcity.com/ http://www.dwp.net http://www.dejanews.com/ http://www.digitalmail.com/sal/e4e.htm http://www.discovery.com/mydcol/mydcol.html http://www.thedoghousemail.com http://mail.dog.com/ http://www.easypost.com/ http://www.educastmail.com/ http://www.ehmail.com/ http://www.email.com/ http://emailit.to/email/default.asp http://www.splendiferous.com/ http://mail.entrepreneurmag.com http://www.eudoramail.com/ http://www.ethos.st/ http://fetchmail.com/ http://www.fiberia.com/ http://mail.finfin.com/ http://www.flairmail.com/ http://www.flashemail.com/ http://www.flashmail.com/ http://www.fnmail.com/ http://www.focus-asia.com/ http://www.fcmail.com/ http://www.freeaccount.com/ http://www.freemail.com.au/ http://www.freemail.nl/ http://www.freemail.co.za/ http://www.freeweb.essenet.it/ http://www.londonoffice.com/ http://gmail.garfield.com/garfield/login/login.asp http://mailgate.theglobe.com/email/ http://www.gnwmail.com/ http://mail.gocubs.com/ http://www.goplay.com/ http://www.worldmailer.com/ http://www.gurlmail.com/ http://mail.happypuppy.com/ http://www.headbone.com/hbzmail/ http://www.hello.net.au/ http://www.hitthebeach.com/ http://freemail.hongkong.com/ http://members.hotbot.com/nc_join.html http://www.hotmail.com/ http://www.id-base.net/Mail/ http://freemail.idg.net/member/login.page http://www.ignmail.com/ http://www.imaginemail.com/ http://InfoBank.au.com/welcome.html http://pic2.infospace.com/webmail.html?r=hp http://email.ivillage.com http://www.jamaicamail.com/ http://www.jpostmail.com/ http://www.jewishmail.com/ http://www.jmail.co.jp/ http://www.juniormail.com/login/juniormail.asp http://www.justicemail.com/ http://tw.joymail.com http://www.kmail.com.au/ http://mail.kmsp.com/ http://mail1.korea.com/ http://www.kunani.com/pop/freemail.asp http://www.latinolink.com http://www.law.com/main2/freemail/ http://www.edmail.com/ http://www.liquidinformation.net/ http://www.log-me-on.com/welcome.htm http://www.looksmart.com/ http://www.lycosemail.com/ http://win.mail.ru/cgi-bin/splash http://www.mailbox.sk/ http://www.mailcity.com/ http://www.mailexcite.com/ http://www.mail.forum.dk/ http://www.mailtag.com/public/default.htm http://email.martindale.com/member/login.page http://www.mauimail.com/ http://mail.medsite.com http://www.megapoint.com/roam/ http://www.mixmail.com/ http://www.mrpost.com/ http://www.myownemail.com/ http://www.myworldmail.com/ http://www.n2mail.com/ http://www.netaddress.com/ http://www.nimail.com http://www.netradio.net/nr-mail/login.html http://www.nj.com/njoemail/ http://www.netnet.com.sg/ http://www.newmail.net/ http://www.operamail.com/ http://our.st/mailjunction/index.asp http://www.parsmail.com/ http://www.pemail.net/ http://philippines.to/ http://www.pinoymail.com http://www.planetarymotion.com/ http://www.popmail.com/ http://www.post.cz/ http://www.post.sk/ http://www.postmark.net/ http://www.postmaster.co.uk/ http://www.pousa.com/ http://www.prontomail.com/ http://www.quikmail.com/ http://www.RaceMail.com/ http://www.rocketmail.com/ http://www.rsnmail.com/member/login.page http://www.sacbeemail.com/sacbee/login/sacbee.asp http://www.safarimail.com/ http://www.salu.net/ http://www.sawasdee.com http://www.sentrismail.com/ http://www.schizo.com/email/ http://my.SchoolSucks.com/SchoolSucks/login/login.asp http://www.sharewaredevelopers.com/sdmail/ http://mail.spaceports.com/index.asp http://email.sportsline.com/member/login.page http://www.starmedia.com/cgi-bin/choose.pl http://www.start.com.au/StartX/Index.asp http://mail.starting-point.com/ http://www.storksite.com/ http://studentcenter.infomall.org/free-email.html http://webmail.switchboard.com/member/login.page http://www.supernews.com/ http://teleserve.dynip.com/mail/ http://www.thirdage.com/community/email/ http://www.unbounded.com/ http://usenet.zzn.com/email/login/login.asp http://www.virginriver.com/ENetMail/ http://www.visto.com/ http://www.vlmail.com/public/default.htm http://www.netivate.com/mail/login.htm http://www.walla.co.il/ http://www.webmails.com./ http://www.webstar.com.my/ http://www.whomail.net/ http://www.women.com/membership/email.html http://www.wowmail.com/ http://www.xoommail.com/ http://mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.yawmail.com/ http://freemail.yeehaa.com/ http://www.ynnmail.com/ http://www.youvegotmail.net/index.htm http://www.zzn.com/ http://www.zensearch.net/ http://www.zdnetmail.com/ whew.... bongart@nettaxi.com
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by mangu on Saturday December 25, @05:56PM EST (#164)
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You forgot http://www.zipmail.com.br
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by Ashen on Sunday December 26, @03:33PM EST (#233)
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You also forgot http://www.kittymail.com ^^;
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Check out Angelfire. 'Tis Grand (Score:2)
by Cplus (cplus(@)angelfire.com) on Saturday December 25, @06:07PM EST (#167)
(User Info) http://www.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=cplus
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I've been using it for a couple years now and it's great. I've only seen it down once, and what a piss off that was (three hours, but I'm a whiner).
Here.
Merry Christmas 5l45hd07 b17ch35!
(Just kidding, I'm not 1337 enough to have come up with that on my own, my kid sister is a h4x0r.
If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. |
Start Mail - www.start.com.au (Score:1)
by Xenex on Saturday December 25, @06:48PM EST (#173)
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This is without a doubt the best mail service I have found. It forfills the three criteria - Reliable, Quick, and Everything else with ease...
It may be an .au site, but I don't use it because it's Australian. I use it because it's the best!
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by Peter La Casse (peter_lacasse@bigfoot.com) on Saturday December 25, @07:14PM EST (#177)
(User Info) http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~lacasse/
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hushmail.com - finally, a reason to enable Java. :) Seriously, I like it a lot because of the strong encryption that's transparent enough for my mother to use. (So far I haven't had any problems using it either.) I haven't heard of any other encryption-oriented webmail places, but I'm sure they're out there somewhere.
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by Demensia (Idontcare@dontlikeme.byteme.com) on Saturday December 25, @09:25PM EST (#184)
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Well in the search for new email services, I have come across www.visto.com. This is a relatively new service but by far better than the rest. Visto provides a complete desktop like suit. Once you login you have email;, a schedula, a task reminder, a calendar/scheduler. Very nice please try it out and let me know what you think.....
Demensia is truely an advanced state of mind, trust me peons I know what I am talking about..... |
Re:Decent webmail? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @10:35PM EST (#187)
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Mail.com offers pretty good webmail, plus they have a huge selection of domains to choose from.
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hahaaha (Score:1)
by alhiane on Sunday December 26, @03:18AM EST (#205)
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it works when i use outlook but when i use the browser i get nothing kinda odd don't u think
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by jordang on Sunday December 26, @12:58PM EST (#226)
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I have been known to use PureBooty - www.purebooty.com
Pretty good webmail with great interface, nice features (notification of new mail to other account, etc)
not to mention a really great name
Jordan
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26, @02:23PM EST (#231)
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I go for the smaller webmail sites. I use animenation.com 's webmail service =D...besides where else can you get a ***@nervhq.org domain. Well most of their domains are anime related but hey i'm a fan. Smaller == less load == less crash / downtime ^.^
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by moonlit2 on Monday December 27, @03:18AM EST (#247)
(User Info) http://www.moonlit.net/
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REAL men use their own mailserver and pine... :-)
For business purposes I also use webmail, and my choice is HushMail, the encrypted alternative. It runs entirely in Java, so you don't get the lag normal HTML gives you.
Btw, does anyone have a good, and FREE, webmail package for apache to recommend?
-dag
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 29, @08:14AM EST (#261)
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I have a free one hat I have been using courtesy of a university kid up in chicago who posted his stuff on tucows. it's default interface is seriously some of the ugliest html I have ever seen, but you can edit the source, it's free, and compiles into a c++ cgi , nice and fast. besides, I wasn't looking for shock me, rock me html out of the program, since everyone that uses it probably wants to make it integrate with the rest of their site theme. oh yeah, it's absolutely free. abd you can get it here as soon as this guy gets back from christmas vacation and plugs his linux box back into the college network. no, I am not an anonymous coward, I am just too lazy to hunt down my slashdot password after losing the cookie.
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @04:31AM EST (#253)
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try email.com
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AWESOME EMAIL (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @05:18PM EST (#256)
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check out www.email.com its sweet, its never been down that i know of, its got folders, its really great plus your at email.com so its easy to remember
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 29, @09:17PM EST (#263)
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http://www.msgto.com
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Re:Decent webmail? (Score:1)
by Canadian AC (CanadianAC@NOSPAM.telebot.net) on Thursday December 30, @12:02AM EST (#264)
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www.telebot.net
it has authenticated smtp,pop3 and imap4,work fine.
Canadian AC CanadianAC@NOSPAM.telebot.net |
www.emailaddresses.com (Score:1)
by The Toy Bandit on Monday January 03, @08:11AM EST (#274)
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Check out Http://www.emailaddresses.com and pick one. With reviews and all.
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More info (Score:1)
by Money__ (hallada at Netscape dot net) on Saturday December 25, @10:20AM EST (#7)
(User Info) file:///C|/Windows/Exit%20To%20DOS.pif
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| As most /.ers are well aware, Hotmail uses FreeBSD to operate the mail system (a choice made by the original owners b4 micros~1 bought the company. micros~1 is currently hiring skilled engineers with FreeBSD experience (as this /. article shows). Are you interested in being associated with a mail system that goes down more than a presidential intern? :) Now's your chace to work for the evil empire.
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No Hotmail in the Great White North (Score:1)
by dazil on Saturday December 25, @10:22AM EST (#8)
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I am in Prince Rupert British Columbia, Canada (check your maps, and look for the "middle of nowhere"), and I have been unable to access my Hotmail account since at least 23:00 PST on the 24th. I have been a frequent traveller this year, and it seems like the availability of Hotmail is directly related to my travel schedule ;-)
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no hotmail for 3 days in the west (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @12:12PM EST (#99)
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I'm on the west coast of the US and haven't been able to access hotmail for the past 3 days due to DNS errors. I am extremely UNHAPPY with MS/Hotmail as I am out of town and it is the only way I can check my email. I also happen to be expecting some important email which makes it all the more frustrating. I am suprised that MS/Hotmail hasn't fixed this by now, or at least put a news item about it on MSN.com... Yes, Hotmail is free but the fact is, there is a LOT of competition for free web based email, a fuck up like this is gonna cost them a lot of users. Why does microsoft always fuck up so bad?
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Hotmail down for weeks (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @04:11PM EST (#150)
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Since around 25 November my Hotmail account has been fubar. After I delete my email it reappears the next morning as new. Now my account is too big and I get no email. I even called customer support - twice - and they said "we are working on it." It's all too late for me; I've struggled with Hotmail all year so I moved on to Yahoo! Hotmail sucks.
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Re:Hotmail down for weeks (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @08:09PM EST (#179)
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ive had the same problem. email i've read will reappear as new, stuff i've deleted will come back. it's really annoying. i dunno wtf microsoft has done to hotmail but they are really fucking things up over there. all of this passport and MSN shit... i just fucking want an email account i can use anywhere with web access, i don't give a shit about instant messaging or any of the other bullshit.
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Re: Hotmail still not working? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 02, @09:03AM EST (#271)
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Should I give up on Hotmail.com and consider my email account a loss? Since Christmas Day, I have not been able to login to my email account and continue to receive the same error message. I have tried to call the help phone # but on hold too long. Customer service definitely sucks. Also, I have sent an email message describing my problem and this was the reply: Thank you for writing to Microsoft Passport. This e-mail is to let you know that the problem you've described to the Technical Support Staff has been confirmed and is currently under evaluation. We understand the importance of this issue and are doing everything within our means to correct the situation. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you, and we thank for your continued patience. Sincerely, Microsoft Passport Customer Support
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MS introducing their root name servers? (Score:1)
by andri on Saturday December 25, @10:22AM EST (#9)
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Think about it. Inroducing their own root name servers allows them to sell domains at their own will, even existing ones. And hardcoding these name servers into Win* OS's, of course. For VPNs without Internet access they would introduce MS-DNS Server (starting at $899)...
Eek. Let's hope it won't happen.
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Like they'll be any worse than NSI?!?? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @03:41PM EST (#143)
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I'm surprised your post wasn't moderated (Score:3, Mandatory but Pointless Micro$oft Bashing)
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Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:1)
by Aravaipa on Saturday December 25, @10:24AM EST (#10)
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I have a number of friends and family who use (shudder) Hotmail and have asked about alternatives. I have a feeling services of this ilk are all pretty much the same, but if anyone has any suggestions to pass along, they would be appreciated.
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:1)
by ToiletDuk (toiletduk @ fishdot.org) on Saturday December 25, @10:43AM EST (#25)
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| I use OneBox (OneBox.com. The service is reliable, and they also give you a free voice mail box. They have local numbers in many metropolitan areas, and the voicemail is linked up with the e-mail system. Get an e-mail, and when you check your voicemail it tells you that you have new mail. Check your e-mail and you can download all your voicemail messages as WAV files. Very neat. They also have some free offers like 100 free business cards if you sign up, etc... Nice stuff.
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:1)
by nikhil (nikhil@nols.com) on Saturday December 25, @10:44AM EST (#28)
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I have a couple of friends who use Mailsafe for their email.
Mailsafe provides a High-Security Email System. You access your mail over a HTTPS connection, so no one can sniff your mail. I find that their Secure Mail system to be a very good alternative to Hotmail and other free email systems.
The only problem is the fact that they charge per account. For people who actually can't deal with downtimes Mailsafe will be perfect for them.
Although I'm not a subscriber, I'd recommend it since all my friends that use it LOVE the service.
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:1)
by Rogain on Saturday December 25, @12:05PM EST (#94)
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My Favorite is www.anti-social.com The interface is a little clumsy and no subfolders, but you have to love that domain.
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @12:21PM EST (#103)
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There are tons of Hotmail alternatives. (go to yahoo, type in "free email" and you'll be amazed!) I use two that I like: excite, and mailandnews. I think now just about every portal (yahoo, altavista, netscape, etc.) gives free e-mail. excite has a nice interface, and it's easy to set up to check multiple external pop mail boxes, which is very useful when travelling. mailandnews.com is great because you get a free pop mail box, which you can check using any regular mail client. It seems fairly reliable, although about once a week or so it's inaccessible for about an hour. Not enough to make a big difference, and it is, after all, a free pop mail box!
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:1)
by atam (a_tam27(AT)yahoo(DOT)com) on Saturday December 25, @10:59PM EST (#189)
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Me and my family all use the free mail accounts at yahoo. I used for about a year and so far has no (yes, none) spam messages. On the other hand, my hotmail account average 10 or more spam mails per day.
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26, @02:54AM EST (#202)
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I have gotten a few spams in my Yahoo account, but I recommend them wholeheartedly. They have just about every feature you need for mail, and just about every other service you could think of on the same site.
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:1)
by toast0 (toast@dont.spam.me.ruka.org) on Sunday December 26, @01:37PM EST (#228)
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gotta go with http://my.schoolsucks.com
the domain just kicks ass
i havent' had any problems with it, but then i haven't really used it either
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 27, @05:10AM EST (#248)
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Email.Com has free message forwarding which is kind of usefull at times.
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:1)
by guymar on Tuesday December 28, @02:09AM EST (#252)
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There's a couple of nice ones: for me the best is mailandnews.com: here you can access your mail over the web with lots of features and a very clear interface, you can also access it (simultaneaously) as POP3, and more importandly as IMAP4, meaning you can do the same as Hotmail with the offline client you find in Outlook Express 5, only...better! You can also use dots in your name instead of underscore. Overview of mailservices with IMAP or POP combined with webmail at: www.emailaddresses.com or at www.fepg.net
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @07:34AM EST (#254)
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We provide free mail account on : http://mail.agat.net/
Like hotmail, but without microsoft behind. 100% GPL stuff. And only volonters for best service.
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:1)
by nion (nion@NOSPAM.geekfest.net) on Tuesday December 28, @06:42PM EST (#257)
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I personally like mail.com. You can choose a @whereever.com domain (they have several to choose from) and offer some pretty good services, such as POP3 access, Organizer and forwarding. Best of all, it's not owned or supported by M$.
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Re:Hotmail Alternatives? (Score:1)
by guymar on Wednesday December 29, @02:21AM EST (#259)
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Yep, but you need to pay for popmail and they are considered as spammers, so a number of providers simply block th mail coming from their domains, certainly not a solution for professional users!
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NSI (Score:1)
by zyklone (zyklone@hotmail.com) on Saturday December 25, @10:24AM EST (#11)
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I suspect Network Solutions will be flamed quite badly for this by Microsoft.
The domain is still in the WHOIS so perhaps they just forgot to actually pay for the domain and NSI blocked it.
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Re:NSI (Score:1)
by Nipok Nek on Saturday December 25, @10:28AM EST (#14)
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Ha! Wouldn't it just be the icing on the cake if one of the recently documented problems with the Name Server allocation routines allowed someone else to snatch passport.com out from under them? I'll bet NSI would change their tune REAL quick if someone like Microsoft came breathing down their necks. :)
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Re:NSI (Score:3, Interesting)
by zyklone (zyklone@hotmail.com) on Saturday December 25, @10:53AM EST (#40)
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Whoo, it appears that they might actually have forgotten to pay.
I did a check on https://payments.networksolutions.com/
and they actually have an unpaid invoice.
Domain Name passport.com
Invoice Number 11395965
Amount Due $35.00
Billing Contact Information
Gudmundson , Carolyn
Phone: +1 (425) 882-xxx Fax: +1 (425) 936-7xxx
Microsoft Corporation
One Microsoft Way
Redmond , WA 98052
UNITED STATES US
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Re:NSI (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @11:21AM EST (#66)
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I agree, it looks like either M$ did not pay, or else NSI did not record the payment. If I recall correctly, the creation date of the record for passport.com was October 2. That and the fact that they have a $35 balance indicates that M$ is almost 3 months overdue paying their bills.
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Re:NSI (Score:1)
by TimeWaste on Saturday December 25, @01:15PM EST (#121)
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My personal domain disappeared from the root nameservers yesterday as well... it looks like I really did forget to pay it! The invoice was due Oct 31, and I "thought" I had paid it but I guess not. I went into that same system and saw that the same invoice was still due. I paid it last night and I'm still not in the root servers yet (neither is passport.com).
I'm guessing that NSI ran some batch job that nuked all non-payments over a few months. The crappy part is that my address was old, so I didn't get any of the 15 "NOTICE OF FINAL DISCONNECTION" notices that they send out by snail mail. I was surprised I got exactly one thing by email: the invoice itself.
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Not NSI' Repsonibility (Score:1)
by EXTomar on Sunday December 26, @02:15PM EST (#229)
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...to make sure Microsoft pays the bill. NSI has every right to disable services for any deliquent client.
On the other hand, I think Monday will be amusing when people wake up and realize what has happened. :-)
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Yahoo mail seems almost too good. Should I worry? (Score:1)
by Gambit Thirty-Two (gambit32-at-synack-dot-org) on Saturday December 25, @10:26AM EST (#12)
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I've never liked HotMail at all really, their spam filters dont pick up ANYTHING, and I currently use the Yahoo mail service. They seem fairly reliable and right now I'm quite happy with them. Above someone talks about Netscape's being rather flaky, but I dont remember any kind of problems so far with Yahoo.
Have there been any that anyone can recall? Only Yahoo incident I remember is their page being hacked like 3-4 years ago
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Another Yahoo mail endorsement (Score:2)
by roblimo (roblimo.nojunk@slashdot.org) on Saturday December 25, @10:37AM EST (#19)
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| I use Yahoo web-based e-mail whenever I'm on the road; it's easier than setting up POP stuff through "borrowed" network connections. I've never had a problem with it. They send you a little spam, but you can run it into a separate "bulk mail" mailbox and delete it all with a single click without ever even looking at it. - Robin
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Re:Another Yahoo mail endorsement (Score:1)
by z4ce on Saturday December 25, @10:58AM EST (#44)
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You could use the webbased pop client "MailMan" by Endymion software. I'm not sure what license it's under, but my ISP uses it. Some of my friends have also set it up for their own personal use when they're on the road. I'm guessing a search at freshmeat would find it. It's the best of both worlds: portablity and no spamablity:) Enelse of course you have friends that want GAP, Nike and old navy gift certificates. Or they think they're being insightful with forwarding %19 bigger moon.
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Re:Another Yahoo mail endorsement (Score:2)
by dodobh (d o d o b h @ v s n l . c o m) on Sunday December 26, @03:05AM EST (#204)
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Try nettaxi or zxmail instead. They offer pop3 as well as web based access, with no spam yet.
Just a satisfied user.
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Yahoo mail great since before Yahoo! (Score:1)
by LoppEar on Saturday December 25, @03:26PM EST (#142)
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Yahoo Mail, formerly owned by Four11, formerly Rocketmail.com, is great. I've used their service (or the predecessors, the interface has barely changed at all) for nearly 4 years.
Availability has never been a problem, and the features are very well laid out and useful. As Roblimo, I use the POP access all the time, makes it so much easier on other people's computers. The filtering is also quite good (bulk mail and personal filters both).
I also give Yahoo kudos for their smooth transition a couple months ago for those of us with Rocketmail accounts, being allowed to keep our addresses but switch over to the "official" Yahoo Mail system. Though for the two years between Yahoo buying it and switching it over we had no advertisements. :)
Email me at luko (at) rocketmail (dot) com
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Re:Yahoo mail seems almost too good. Should I worr (Score:1)
by griffjon (griffjon@spamsucks.austin.rr.noitreallydoes.com) on Saturday December 25, @09:20PM EST (#183)
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They've had a few problems with script being able to be sent through email headers (read, "!!VIRUS that infects you without even opening your email!!"). These didn't get abused to my knowledge and were patched soon after Yahoo's attention was brought to them.
I personally despise their UI on logging in, too many clicks to get to my inbox. That's not to say that I don't have 4-5 yahoo accounts, tho O:)
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Re:Yahoo mail seems almost too good. Should I worr (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @10:17PM EST (#186)
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Normal mailreaders don't have this problem. Smells like an idiot problem. Try something like "Mail" or "inc" next time.
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Re:Yahoo mail seems almost too good. Should I worr (Score:1)
by Louis on Monday December 27, @01:53AM EST (#246)
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I had problems accessing my mailbox for a week or two about three months ago. Both from the web page, and from a POP3 client.
Problems have since disappeared.
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Ah, I love it when I plan comes together (Score:2, Funny)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @10:28AM EST (#13)
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| Yes, it's all coming together nicely... You see, those adds for people with Linux/BSD skills were not only filled by zealots, but by full-fledged UNIX-guerrillas! Don't worry folks, everything's going to plan. Soon enough, we'll have the whole MS compound sealed off, then we'll move in for the kill -9...
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uh, no (Score:1, Informative)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @10:30AM EST (#15)
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This is incorrect. Some backbone (I think it's cw) is having problems with its name servers.
> server ns.cw.net
Default Server: ns.cw.net
Address: 204.70.128.1
> passport.com
Server: ns.cw.net
Address: 204.70.128.1
*** ns.cw.net can't find passport.com:
Non-existent host/domain
> www.passport.com
Server: ns.cw.net
Address: 204.70.128.1
*** ns.cw.net can't find www.passport.com:
Non-existent host/domain
> server ns1.savvis.net
Default Server: ns1.savvis.net
Address: 209.16.211.42
> passport.com
Server: ns1.savvis.net
Address: 209.16.211.42
Name: passport.com
Address: 207.46.198.16
>
jones
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Re:uh, no (Score:2, Insightful)
by zyklone (zyklone@hotmail.com) on Saturday December 25, @10:46AM EST (#30)
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Some nameservers have the domain cached.
They should stop working in a few hours.
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Re:uh, no (Score:1)
by mpmeeks on Sunday December 26, @12:09AM EST (#192)
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Coward is correct it is a routing problem with Cable and Wireless. my ISP has emailed them, it should be fixed..."soon". (this happened last week too, but it was a different backbone) you can usually use www.anonymizer.com to get around routing problems like this but it doesnt support secure connections like hotmail. *sniffle sniffle*
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Possible publicity stunt? (Score:3, Insightful)
by tpck (cryptid@golden.net) on Saturday December 25, @10:31AM EST (#16)
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| What if... Microsoft purposefully takes down Hotmail, and then blames in on the crappyness of FreeBSD? Then slam FreeBSD big time and replace it with a Windows NT solution they just happen to have waiting in the wings. Ooooooohhh. Conspiracy I say. What do they have to lose if they do this? They get to slam FreeBSD and promote Windows NT all at the same time. And its fairly clear that most people don't really care if Hotmail goes down for a little bit anyways, nor care if its secure. (I'm thinking about the security problem they had a while back.) I just thought I'd share that nice juicy rumour I heard from my friend who works over at Hotmail and is involved in the decission making process. (He will of course go unamed and I will not provide anything to back up my claims.) But remember: don't blame things on stupidity and incompetence when you can blame things on conspiracy. Or is it the other way around? :) Oh, and I'm not dissing FreeBSD. I like it. So blah.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:1)
by xianzombie on Saturday December 25, @10:44AM EST (#29)
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a year or so back (if memory serves), M$ did try taking down the FreeBSD servers and replacing them with NT servers. Didn't work. NT couldn't handle the loads or something, or just wouldn't setup to maintain the system the way it was. I doubt its a publicity stunt, however if it is, i hope no one falls for it
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @01:38PM EST (#127)
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AFAIK, Microsoft did not start the conversion to NT/Exchange. They did do a bunch research and testing before determining that it wasn't feasible at that time.
It wasn't that the IIS webserver couldn't handle the load (lookit www.microsoft.com or any number of other clustered IIS sites) -- the problem was migrating from Solaris/Oracle(?) to MS Exchange for the datastore. Since Exchange is a rather small time LAN messenging system, it would seem that MS SQL might be a better choice, but then again the whole point of the conversion would be for marketing reasons.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:1)
by ToiletDuk (toiletduk @ fishdot.org) on Saturday December 25, @10:46AM EST (#31)
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I doubt that would happen. Remember a year or so ago when Microsoft tried to convert Hotmail's engine over to NT servers, and they bombed heavily? Unless Windows 2000 is super-duper-better I doubt they're gonna have any luck with a Windows server based hotmail install.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:2)
by Foogle (foogle@adelphia.net) on Saturday December 25, @11:09AM EST (#53)
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You know what I think is funny? Microsoft's webpage is run on NT servers, and it's *never* been Slashdotted (or hacked either, AFAIK). But everyone loves quoting that NT can't handle Hotmail's services. Believe me, if it can handle the MSN & MS homepages, it can handle Hotmail. I think the problem was probably in the implementation they used... I guess we'll never know.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:1)
by bero-rh (bero@redhat.com) on Saturday December 25, @11:49AM EST (#84)
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First of all: What tells you microsoft.com && msn.com are really running on NT?
It's not a big problem to patch the Linux (or *BSD)/Apache combination to identify itself as NT/IIS. I think even Microsoft developers could handle that.
Second, *.{microsoft,msn}.com are relatively huge clusters. Even if a lot of boxes crash or get cracked, the others will still work.
I think if you have 100 NT boxes and a programmable power supply ("hard-reboot" a box as soon as it stops responding to pings), you
can actually run a server that is about as stable as one box running a real OS...
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @01:41PM EST (#129)
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I'm curious. What "one box running a real OS" could serve all of www.microsoft.com?
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @05:04PM EST (#157)
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A sun E5K running solaris could easily handle microsoft.com.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @07:13PM EST (#176)
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At about 10x the price in hardware.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:2)
by daviddennis (david@amazing.com) on Sunday December 26, @01:21AM EST (#199)
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Check the hardware configuration page for Microsoft.com - they have a LOT of money invested in their systems. How much would the needed E10k run?
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:1)
by Panaflex (davenrs@NOSPAM.mailexcite.com) on Sunday December 26, @02:16PM EST (#230)
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Well.. our e6k costs around 700k. (not including shipping, power, cooling, etc.)
Pan
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:1)
by reflector (reflector@deletethis.fastpointcom.com) on Sunday December 26, @10:27PM EST (#243)
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I think I heard someone mention that e10ks go for about 1.5 mil. But I'd think it'd depend what options you get with it.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26, @04:20PM EST (#236)
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Why is www.sun.com so damn slow then? Bandwidth? I'm sure the traffic must be much lower than www.microsoft.com.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:2)
by Foogle (foogle@adelphia.net) on Saturday December 25, @02:45PM EST (#138)
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What makes you so sure that Hotmail is running BSD? Or that Slashdot is running Linux? Yeah, they could be falsely IDing themselves, but I doubt it. As for your second point: so what? Most heavily-trafficked web-sites do run as clusters, for obvious performance and reliablity reasons.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @01:40PM EST (#128)
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Until about a year ago, www.microsoft.com was frequently "slashdotted". They've somewhat recently bulked-up the setup and/or made major improvements in IIS.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:1)
by Baz Quux (microsofthostmaster@dotcomnow.com) on Saturday December 25, @05:14PM EST (#159)
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Microsoft's webpage is run on NT servers, and it's *never* been Slashdotted This isn't really the point, as the issue is DNS and not OS reliability or security, but microsoft.com does get knocked over. See here - home.microsoft.com, running IIS on NT4, telling me "Server too busy." (You'll just have to take my word it that I didn't doctor that screenshot any. I thought it was so funny when that happened, I had to capture it.)
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @11:01PM EST (#190)
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There's been rumors that Microsoft will start limiting connections to Netscape browsers when things get busy. It'd been interesting if you could have gotten through by emulating IE in the HTTP header.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26, @01:07AM EST (#197)
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www.microsoft.com was running NT3.x until just recently.. they are now running IIS 5 and NT5 beta.. sadly, though, any of their old ~12 servers in that cluster were easily taken out by some simple exploits for the longest time. Get all ~12 of them in a row, or at the same time, and www.microsoft.com is completely down. Check www.microsoft.com now with netcraft Later.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26, @04:23PM EST (#237)
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www.microsoft.com was running on NT4.
Netcraft reports "Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT3", which is clearly incorrect because IIS 4.0 only runs on NT4.
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This is an old John Dvorak rumor. (Score:1)
by EdlinUser (jamesmcinis@nospam.ipa.net) on Saturday December 25, @12:11PM EST (#97)
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After a Hotmail crash some months back John Dvorak started this rumor (that MS deliberately brought Hotmail down). It was one of his more humorous pieces at the time; it's kinda stale now. BTW Now that Linux is on the ZD radar I'm looking for Dvorak to write some really funny stuff about our little revolution. "Transmeta is Paul Allen's (& Bill's) way to *buy* Linus" "The secret code in RedHat" "LinuxOne to be bigger than TurboLinux" Oh, I can't wait.
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Hotmail just hired a FreeBSD expert... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26, @03:24AM EST (#206)
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So it's quite unlikely.
Why would they put someone new on the books who's good with FreeBSD just to replace it with NT/Win2K?
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Re:Hotmail just hired a FreeBSD expert... (Score:1)
by interiot on Sunday December 26, @09:03AM EST (#215)
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Because everyone knows that 2 days before you finish a massive conversion, the old system dies and you have to do a lot of work to keep the old one running until the new one comes online.
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Re:Possible publicity stunt? (Score:1)
by Stargazer (targz@softhome/.net) on Sunday December 26, @01:03PM EST (#227)
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| Hmmm... an interesting theory, to say the least. It would be quite possible, and wouldn't surprise me coming from Microsoft. It wouldn't work, however, and that's for the simple fact that actions speak louder than words. Remember, this is Microsoft -- they can tell Hotmail to do anything they want. So how come those servers aren't running WinNT, if it's so much better than FreeBSD? Yeah, I thought so. -- Stargazer
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dig @a.root-servers.net passport.com (8:30am PST) (Score:2, Informative)
by Jason Johannson (jase@euphonix-projects.org) on Saturday December 25, @10:33AM EST (#17)
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; > DiG 8.2 > @a.root-servers.net passport.com ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 10 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; passport.com, type = A, class = IN ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: COM. 1D IN SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. hostmaster.internic.NET. ( 1999122401 ; serial 30M ; refresh 15M ; retry 1W ; expiry 1D ) ; minimum ;; Total query time: 300 msec ;; FROM: argo to SERVER: a.root-servers.net 198.41.0.4 ;; WHEN: Sat Dec 25 08:31:33 1999 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 30 rcvd: 107 There ya go.
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works fine (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @10:33AM EST (#18)
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I've been logged in since 6 this morning and it's worked fine. (MSN messenger, mail etc. etc.) Along with Yahoo pager etc. etc. :) I'm at work and in front of the computer. the truth is - Yeah microsoft sucks. but: We need to quit whining about microsoft and started "pushing" the merits of linux. it's like a political mudslinging campaign. Nobody cares for it. grow up. my two cents
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Suspicious! (Score:1)
by Kaht (orbitz~at~mail~dot~igormud~dot~org) on Saturday December 25, @10:38AM EST (#20)
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"Not being a Hotmail or regular Windows user for that matter, I cannot verify this - but I've gotten several e-mails from people this morning wondering about it." Hey, how'd they e-mail you if they can't access Hotmail?
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Re:Suspicious! (Score:1)
by ToiletDuk (toiletduk @ fishdot.org) on Saturday December 25, @10:47AM EST (#33)
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One word: telepathy.
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Re:Suspicious! (Score:1)
by pen (digdug@hotmail.com?subject=notspam:[subject]) on Saturday December 25, @11:09AM EST (#54)
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I think the submissions sent to /submit.pl go to a mailbox.
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Re:Suspicious! (Score:2)
by Rendus (rendus@rendus.penguinpowered.com) on Saturday December 25, @11:46AM EST (#83)
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Nope, they go to a web interface where stories are put on hold, posted, or deleted. Sort of a holding chamber.
As for e-mailing without having Hotmail available, damn near every ISP on earth gives you a free e-mail account, and I have probably 10 web-based ones as well...
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noobbies, poobies, emailies, and illitereracies (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @11:54AM EST (#86)
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| You can't get "several e-mails" anymore than the postman can deliver "several mails". Mail is a mass noun, not a count noun. Letter is a count noun; so is message. Perhaps you'd care for one of those. Or "pieces of mail". And this whole e-craze is going to die away. It's marketing CRAP. People will drop the leading e- and simply use the regular words, allowing the context to provide understanding.
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Re:noobbies, poobies, emailies, and illitereracies (Score:1)
by Kaht (orbitz~at~mail~dot~igormud~dot~org) on Saturday December 25, @06:25PM EST (#170)
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The "E" in E-mail has nothing to do with marketing... it was called that back when people were like "what's that box? a computer? what are you, a weirdo?"
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It works only via Microsoft messenger (Score:2, Interesting)
by segmond (segmond[at]hotmail[dot]com) on Saturday December 25, @10:38AM EST (#21)
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I am in US, and going to http://www.hotmail.com doesn't work. But I notice that if I use Microsoft messenger, it works. Is this a move by Microsoft to force people to use their own IM?
Hrmm.
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Passport (Score:0, Redundant)
by dsussman on Saturday December 25, @10:42AM EST (#22)
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This service interuption has happened before and probabbly will continue for some time to come. If for any reason, the login server that the users account information is stored on is unavailable (and those servers do not appear to be replicated) then you can't login. I do have hotmail.com, yahoo.com and netscape.com throwaway accounts and can get to HotMail today. The architecture behind Passport is not yet robust. Maybe never will be since it relies upon NT. Passport is part of Bill's attempt to gain enough market share to allow him to charge either a PI fee for the service or more likely become the credit card transaction processor. David
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Passport (Score:1)
by dsussman on Saturday December 25, @10:42AM EST (#23)
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This service interuption has happened before and probabbly will continue for some time to come. If for any reason, the login server that the users account information is stored on is unavailable (and those servers do not appear to be replicated) then you can't login.
I do have hotmail.com, yahoo.com and netscape.com throwaway accounts and can get to HotMail today.
The architecture behind Passport is not yet robust. Maybe never will be since it relies upon NT.
Passport is part of Bill's attempt to gain enough market share to allow him to charge either a PI fee for the service or more likely become the credit card transaction processor.
David
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Blocking netscape? (Score:1)
by Skinka (mikko.kinnunen@cs.helsinki.fi?Subject=Slashdot) on Saturday December 25, @10:42AM EST (#24)
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| www.hotmail.com doesn't answer to pings, but I can get in using IE. Netscape gives me a "the ducument contains no data" error message. Mozilla M12 doesn't work either. Bug or not...? All mail in and out of hotmail seems to going through (thank god).
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Re:Blocking netscape? (Score:2)
by Foogle (foogle@adelphia.net) on Saturday December 25, @11:13AM EST (#60)
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The fact that it doesn't respond to pings is unremarkable. They may simply have the machine (or the firewall it's behind) blocking ICMP traffic. I set my companies firewall up that way.
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Re:Blocking netscape? (Score:1)
by moeller (moeller@dophnic.spamisevil.myip.org) on Saturday December 25, @12:53PM EST (#111)
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Please do not block all ICMP traffic. Blocking all ICMP messages does _not_ increase security (at least for some types of ICMPs), all it does is unnecessarily break things. You need to keep "no-fragment" ICMP messages intact (or encounter lack of communication with many rather large networks out there), and should keep "ICMP Destination unreachable" packets intact, unless you particularly enjoy long, pointless waits. However, blocking especially ICMP Redirect is usually ok, assuming there is nothing that needs it at your site. ICMP Echo may be disabled, if you don't want to let inside hosts find out if outside hosts are up, and the security benefits seem substantial enough for you.
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PASSPORT.COM went on hold for failure to pay (Score:1)
by Hydrophobe on Saturday December 25, @10:44AM EST (#27)
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The domain went on hold for failure to pay the domain registration renewal fee. Don't ask how I found out... don't want to give away info for domain speculators
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what! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @10:47AM EST (#32)
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I had no problem with Hotmail this morning. Then again who cares?
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Pine anyone? (Score:2, Informative)
by musicmaker on Saturday December 25, @10:47AM EST (#34)
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Geez... I and thought that typing fetchmail followed by pine was easy enough. Webmail is so slow anyhow. I don't know why people bother. It's not any easier that configuring fetchmail and pine, which is probalby quicker than signing up for crappy webmail service, and the only limit on your mailbox size is your HD. Flipping web mail. Educate people so they can run their own MX if they want. Long live DSL! Long live Sendmail! It aint that hard, honest guv.
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Re:Pine anyone? (Score:1)
by ilovelinux on Saturday December 25, @10:58AM EST (#43)
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Pine is my favourite - simple, nice interface, my first experience eith email as well. I also run it through DSL and my inbox is like 200 megs right now. gotta love it.
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Re:Pine anyone? (Score:2)
by Issue9mm (issue9mmAThotmailDOTnospamDOTcom) on Saturday December 25, @11:08AM EST (#52)
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Webmail has lots of features that fetchmail and pine do not...
First of all, there are more web browsers installed across the globe than instances of fetchmail and pine.
Secondly, for people who access email from a LOT of different locations (ie: me), like home, office, friends' homes, job locations, client locations, etc... it's a whole lot easier to be able to have your mail on the net, and not have to reconfigure every computer you're at... (a lot of my friends don't like that, and a lot of my clients AREN'T using *nix, pine, and fetchmail)
Lastly (that I can think of at least), Travelling. It's quite easy to be able to check mail from any computer store with a net connection. Not so easy to carry your DSL modem around with ya is it? Also (last I checked) impossible to take the service with you.
While POP3 may suit your needs better, there are lots of valid reasons why webmail makes sense to a lot of people, myself included.
This brings me to an interesting question. What sort of retaliation do consumers have against Hotmail. They're flakiness has kind of, well, increased as of late. I got my hotmail account before MS bought em, and haven't bothered to switch email addresses... However, since the service is free, what kind of protection do we have. We are subjected to their banner ads, so, in a sense we are 'paying' for their service (The more they're down, the more we pay), tho it is essentially a free service... I dunno, obviously, we can't demand our money back???? Class action maybe?
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Re:Pine anyone? (Score:1)
by Alrescha on Saturday December 25, @11:25AM EST (#70)
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Pine may not be everywhere, but I can telnet/ssh into my machine from almost anywhere that I could use a web-based mail service - and I prefer my mail to be kept where only I can see it, thanks.
A.
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Telnet (or ssh) (Score:1)
by ph43drus (EATph43drus@WITHAhomeSPORK.com) on Saturday December 25, @01:06PM EST (#120)
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| Here's what I do. I've got a cablemodem, and I've hooked myself up with Sendmail. However, I've also got a POP account, plus one sitting on a box down in California. I can check all three of these accounts from anywhere. I simply telnet or ssh (where I can get at it) to my box at home, and check the account set up there, and I can use Mutt (the mail reader that sucks less than all the others) to also get the mail from the pop server. The account down in Cali (which is my personal email account, and not posted here) is one that I have to reach by telnet/ssh. It's pretty nice, and I don't ever fsck with my friends settings. Sometimes Mutt renders poorly in a telnet window, but I've got pine as a back up (and since I can remember some simple keybindings, I can still grab the new mail off of the pop account, and then look at it through pine). Anyway, I'm satisfied with the setup. Jeff
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get dhs.org (Score:1)
by CrAlt (cralt@NOSPAM.hackme.dhs.org) on Saturday December 25, @09:17PM EST (#182)
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You should check out dhs.org and set up a address for your cablemodem. that way your website could be http://whateveryouwant.dhs.org and your email addy could be jeff@whateveryouwant.dhs.org. Much nicer then trying to remember a IP address. :)
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Re:Pine anyone? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @07:17PM EST (#178)
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Just use imap and use webmail, pine, outlook express, whatever :)
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Re:Pine anyone? (Score:2)
by SoftwareJanitor (SoftwareJanitor@yahoo.com) on Saturday December 25, @11:59AM EST (#92)
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Geez... I and thought that typing fetchmail followed by pine was easy enough.
I use fetchmail, but I have never cared much for pine or elm (I use the good old fashioned command line mail reader). The other thing I use yahoo mail for occasionally is reading email when I am on vacation and happen to be able to find a kiosk with a web browser. I did that at EPCOT this spring when I was vacationing in Florida. Now that I have DSL I will probably set up my own webmail access on my local web server, but I haven't gotten around to that yet.
Webmail is so slow anyhow. I don't know why people bother.
I use yahoo mail mostly so I can have an email address that isn't so easily traceable directly to me like if I gave out my pop box at my ISP or an email address to one of my home boxes on DSL.
It's not any easier that configuring fetchmail and pine, which is probalby quicker than signing up for crappy webmail service, and the only limit on your mailbox size is your HD.
I've never had problems with filling up my yahoo mail box, then again, I don't use it for a lot of really important stuff.
Flipping web mail. Educate people so they can run their own MX if they want. Long live DSL! Long live Sendmail! It aint that hard, honest guv.
It's not easy/hard that is the deal for me. Web mail fills a certain set of niches that are different from what I use my local mail service for.
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Re:Pine anyone? (Score:1)
by JamesKPolk (multivac @ fcmail.com) on Sunday December 26, @12:38AM EST (#193)
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No, not everyone has the option of running their own mail servers.
If I give out an email address, I'd like people to be able to send to it all day long, not just for the few hours a day my computer is part of the internet.
Of course, even if the availability problem were solvable, there's still the DNS problem. dhs.org may be available, but how long until it goes the way of ml.org?
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Re:Pine anyone? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 30, @07:12PM EST (#269)
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Yes, but some people don't want the e-mail on their hard drive. Webmail makes an easy way to separate your e-mail and the viruses it may contain from your hard drive. Thus keeping your computer safer. Hope you have a very good virus scan and keep it up to date or maybe you just wipe and rebuild on a regular basis?
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Lynx works, IE and Nav do not (Score:1, Interesting)
by MattMann on Saturday December 25, @10:47AM EST (#35)
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I suspected some DNS or nameserver caching problem, but I don't think so now. - Netscape Navigator reports that it's unable to find lc2.law5.hotmail.passport.com
- Internet Exploder reports it is unable to connect to www.hotmail.com
- lynx, the venerable, asks if I want to accept an invalid cookie, and then goes ahead and connects properly no matter which answer I give.
BTW, my Netscape, coincidentally or not, went into hyperspace during my testing.
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Re:Lynx works, IE and Nav do not (Score:1)
by Krimsen (krimsen@acm.org) on Saturday December 25, @11:03AM EST (#48)
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I've noticed that sometimes Netscape will be unable to find a domain, and within the next 10 seconds it will crash. I thought it was specific to my machine, but I guess you experienced the same problem.
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It IS a DNS problem. (Score:2)
by MattMann on Saturday December 25, @11:23AM EST (#68)
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| hey, moderate that back down again!! It is a DNS problem turns out that my lynx on the machine I run DNS on was not using itself for DNS It is a DNS problem for lookups on lc2.law5.hotmail.passport.com
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So? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @10:52AM EST (#37)
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As you all like to mention, hotmail uses BSD. Since when does slashdot report failures of their own pet OS's? It wasn't that long ago that slashdot itself was down all the time. I don't remember seeing stories about it.
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Re:So? (Score:1)
by Foogle (foogle@adelphia.net) on Saturday December 25, @11:14AM EST (#61)
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Oh there were stories about it all the time... Wait, it was down at the time -- that must be why you didn't see them :)
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Re:So? (Score:1)
by Phroggy (slashdot@phroggy.com) on Saturday December 25, @12:54PM EST (#112)
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Ummmm, hello? This is not an OS issue. Whether they use WinNT or FreeBSD or Solaris, the problem is, they forgot to pay their $35 renewal fee to Network Solutions, and NSI turned it off.
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who cares! (Score:1)
by ilovelinux on Saturday December 25, @10:53AM EST (#38)
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It's Microsoft! Why would anyone reading this site (presumably a reasonably intelligent person) use a microsoft product when they can get better service from any number of free mail servers? Let Microsoft do themselves in - we don't need to help them. *snicker* Just my thoughts.
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A Long Long Time Ago... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 26, @03:01AM EST (#203)
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| Some people got hotmail before Microsoft did, and are to well established to switch. I use my main Hotmail account for everything, and it would be hell to switch. On the other hand, this is pretty much hell, to. Screamin' through your Brain
Whats my name?
Zain.
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Hotmail isn't really down... (Score:0, Redundant)
by pen (digdug@hotmail.com?subject=notspam:[subject]) on Saturday December 25, @10:53AM EST (#39)
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| Hotmail really isn't down, it's only that the domain name returns a bad address. If you really need to log in, save the following as an HTML file on your computer and open it with a browser. Should work with any javascript-enabled browser. Tested with Netscape, IE, and Opera. Needless to say, that this is very insecure, and you shouldn't leave this file lying around. ---cut here---
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Moderators:lack of content (Score:1)
by Money__ (hallada at Netscape dot net) on Saturday December 25, @10:57AM EST (#42)
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If there ever was a need for a "no content" choice in moderation, I think this post would fit the bill. :)
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Re:Moderators:lack of content (Score:1)
by pen (digdug@hotmail.com?subject=notspam:[subject]) on Saturday December 25, @12:32PM EST (#107)
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Perhaps you didn't read my second post that explained how Slashdot messed up my HTML formatting?
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Hotmail isn't really down... (Score:4, Informative)
by pen (digdug@hotmail.com?subject=notspam:[subject]) on Saturday December 25, @10:55AM EST (#41)
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(Sorry, not my fault. Slashdot messed up and converted & lt; to the less than sign.)
Hotmail really isn't down, it's only that the domain name returns a bad address. If you really need to log in, save the following as an HTML file on your computer and open it with a browser. Should work with any javascript-enabled browser. Tested with Netscape, IE, and Opera. Needless to say, that this is very insecure, and you shouldn't leave this file lying around.---cut here---
<html>
<head>
<noscript>
<meta http-equiv=Refresh content="0; url=http://www.hotmail.com">
</noscript>
</head>
<body onload="document.pform.submit(); ">
<form name="pform" action="http://www.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/dologin" method="POST">
<input type="hidden" name="login" value="[yourlogin]">
<input type="hidden" name="passwd" value="[yourpass]">
<input type="hidden" name="rru" value="/cgi-bin/folders">
<input type="hidden" name="js" value="yes">
</form>
</body>
</html>
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Re:Hotmail isn't really down... (Score:1)
by pen (digdug@hotmail.com?subject=notspam:[subject]) on Saturday December 25, @11:13AM EST (#59)
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Oh yeah, you can also log in by just clicking here.
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Re:Hotmail isn't really down... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @04:49PM EST (#154)
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I tried the code and the link... still didn't work any other options?
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my hero! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @12:24PM EST (#104)
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KICK ASS! thanks so much. this is the first i've been able to check my email in 3 days.
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excellent stuff (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @04:59PM EST (#156)
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You, sir, are truly a '1337 h0tm411 h4x0r. Thanks for posting that.
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Re:Hotmail isn't really down... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @06:38PM EST (#172)
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| How about not storing your login and password on your machine and not use any script: <html>
<body>
<form action="http://www.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/dologin" method="POST">
Hotmail Login <input type="text" name="login"><br>
Password <input type="password" name="passwd"><br>
<input type="hidden" name="rru" value="/cgi-bin/folders">
<input type="hidden" name="js" value="yes">
<input type="submit" value="Login">
</form>
</body>
</html>
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Merry Xmas from microsoft (Score:1)
by Money__ (hallada at Netscape dot net) on Saturday December 25, @10:59AM EST (#45) |
Posted by Hemos on Saturday December 25, @10:07AM
Microsoft Hotmail/Passport Service Interrupted:UPDATED