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Sony building a digital walkman

Posted by CmdrTaco on Thu Apr 08, 1999 02:17 PM
from the altering-an-industry dept.
Tim Trampedach writes "Sony has previewed what they think is the MP3 killer by storing audio on a "Memory Stick". Not too much technical detail, but interesting that Sony is joining the crowd. "
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  • It'll take a moron to think so. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @05:49PM
  • SONY has lost. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @09:17PM
  • It'll take a legit studio to attract REAL aartists by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @01:59PM
  • MiniDisc myths. by Joseph Vigneau (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @08:02PM
  • What Sony is missing... by gavinhall (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @06:15PM
  • ATRAC has moved on. by Static (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @06:24PM
  • Mini-Discs can hold as much as a CD by mfearby (Score:1) Friday April 09 1999, @06:00AM
  • VHS vs Beta argument... by dattaway (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @02:48PM
  • Try the mp3.com Top 40 by Bitscape (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @11:23PM
  • They can never stop us... by Dast (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @02:13PM
  • Current FLASH max capacity is 128MB. by HuangBaoLin (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @05:11PM
  • What are you smoking? by HuangBaoLin (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @04:20PM
  • SCSI Minidisc Data Drive called MD-DATA by HuangBaoLin (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @04:34PM
  • Minidisc Data Drives by HuangBaoLin (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @05:04PM
  • bboys label by maestro^ (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @06:52PM
  • It'll take a legit studio to attract REAL aartists by BeBoxer (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @01:57PM
  • Sony, MP3 format, and CD's by parasite (Score:1) Sunday April 11 1999, @12:44AM
  • It'll take a legit studio to attract REAL aartists by typo (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @04:21PM
  • What Sony is missing... by Roofus (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @01:33PM
  • Sony, MP3 format, and CD's by aonaran (Score:1) Friday April 09 1999, @01:13AM
  • That's not useful to anyone then by webslacker (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @08:40PM
  • Nah by webslacker (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @03:13PM
  • What are you smoking? by webslacker (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @03:45PM
  • Vaporware by webslacker (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @03:29PM
  • Proprietary format for copy protection by crow (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @01:44PM
  • THE Floppy replacement? (Re: CF vs MemStick) by TeknoDragon (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @05:42PM
  • The wise man has spoken !! by akintayo (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @11:52PM
  • Smartmedia by hermit (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @02:08PM
  • And people wonder why ... by InstantCool (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @02:20PM
  • RE: Serial Numbers by Fish Man (Score:1) Friday April 09 1999, @07:24AM
  • Cost of a secure format for the little guy. by Jason Johannson (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @10:51PM
  • Ulterior motives and intentions by Jason Johannson (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @11:41PM
  • Mini-Discs CAN'T hold as much as a CD by AT (Score:1) Friday April 09 1999, @06:10AM
  • Vaporware by AT (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @02:10PM
  • Good grief... by Snarfvs Maximvs (Score:1) Friday April 09 1999, @09:23AM
  • Current FLASH max capacity is 128MB. by Talios (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @07:21PM
  • Cost of a secure format for the little guy. by Talios (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @07:39PM
  • Good grief... by Talios (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @07:42PM
  • Sony are full of it!!! by KingBob (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @02:56PM
  • Re:SCSI Minidisc Data Drive called MD-DATA by KingBob (Score:1) Sunday April 11 1999, @02:28PM
  • What Sony is missing... by kenb (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @07:13PM
  • It'll take a legit studio to attract REAL aartists by einTier (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @04:12PM
  • how radio promotion works by einTier (Score:1) Friday April 09 1999, @07:55AM
  • Exactly by einTier (Score:1) Thursday April 08 1999, @04:29PM
  • Turning their Back - Sony takes a cue from MS by Outland Traveller (Score:2) Thursday April 08 1999, @03:06PM
  • Memory Stick: proprietary Sony by crow (Score:2) Thursday April 08 1999, @01:41PM
  • Ulterior motives and intentions by Anonymous Shepherd (Score:2) Thursday April 08 1999, @04:28PM
  • The audio version of Divx? by Fish Man (Score:2) Thursday April 08 1999, @01:54PM
  • Cost of a secure format for the little guy. by Jason Johannson (Score:2) Thursday April 08 1999, @02:14PM
  • Good grief... by Snarfvs Maximvs (Score:2) Thursday April 08 1999, @02:43PM
  • And people wonder why ... by |DaBuzz| (Score:2) Thursday April 08 1999, @01:38PM
  • by Cassius (9481) on Thursday April 08 1999, @01:35PM (#1942917)
    The idea of a memory stick sounds slightly suspicious (why not just stick with MiniDisc?) but I think you'll need someone like Sony (which also produces records) to get real artists behind a new medium.

    MP3 is a great technology, but all of the artists listed on the legit MP3 sites are no-names. And no, I don't want to hear has-beens like Public Enemy or Ice-T.

    I know that sounds like a slightly immature thing to say about a great new format, but I think it is safe to say the artists that are in demand right now are not releasing full listings on MP3. CD is still the king.
  • by HuangBaoLin (13109) on Thursday April 08 1999, @03:00PM (#1942918)
    I even had a link to some pictures a while ago, but NikkeiBP is ungoing maintence in their archive section. The pictures showed a prototype integrated in a pair of regular headphones (Nice..
    no wires!) Here's a a older link regarding the technology to be used.

    http://www.sony.co.jp/soj/CorporateInfo/News/199 902/99-021/index.html

    Apparently the device will be using a variant of ATRAC 3. (Minidisc codec, which BTW, is far superior to MP3, fidelity wise for same bitrate 10:1)

    Some of you are bitchin "Why does Sony want to use the memory stick?" Some legitimate reasons: Slimer than Compact Flash (two memory sticks could fit in the same footprint) and requires less insertion force (can be ejected with a button) Its a whole lot less flimsy than SmartMedia, and doesn't require a condom for storage. Some complain about the price, which I agree, why not use slightly cheaper CF cards? Well Sony always assumes that those who want the best will pay more. But my question is, why mess with solid state formats? MiniDisc is still the most superior technology size, cost and audio fidelity wise.

    I use a Sony MZ-R55, its only 78.9 x 18.9 x 84mm. (a hair larger than the disc itself) It weighs only 190g w/disc and NH-14WM rechargeable battery. It records off the battery, so I use it for meetings, lectures, and stereo recordings of concerts. Blanks are cheap in bluk ($2 each in quanities of 20 or more) I get 4 hours playback or 2 hours of recording using the internal battery . When coupled with two AAs I get 16 hours of playback and 9 hours of recording. Whats also nice is that the things housed in a damn sexy brushed magnesium alloy case, everyone wants to see it.

    Got questions? Check out www.minidisc.org

    -HuangBaoLin
  • by D-Fly (7665) on Thursday April 08 1999, @01:38PM (#1942919) Homepage Journal
    Sony has been pushing this stuff for a while. In fact, my next computer (the Sony 505ZX) is going to have a slot for Memory Sticks built-in.

    The question is, why should we all get so excited about a new standard that doesn't offer much of an advantage over, say, Compact Flash? Compact flash actually costs less than Memory Stick at this point, and near as I can tell, it's smaller too.

    I have a little Olympus camera that stores on Compact Flash, and a new 4 meg clip costs about $20 bucks, vs. $30 for a 4 meg memory stick (if I recall.

    CF is thinner and shorter than memory stick, though a little wider.

    I haven't seen specs, but I assume they are about the same speed, since they are based on similar technology.

    Thus I have to conclude that Sony is just trying to push a proprietary spec on us so they can make an extra buck, even though there is an equivalent and cheaper technology already available.

    Therefore all the ZDNET and CNET and even New York Times articles on itis corporate hype and we should probably ignore it.

    As for the MP3 killer part, why would anyone buy a Sony machine that doesn't do copies when they can get one that does, and uses the widely available MP3 format? The answer, oddly enough, is that they probably will. Oh well.
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