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How Google's Novel Management System Aids Growth
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on Thu Apr 27, 2006 04:05 PM
from the sprouting-like-weeds dept.
from the sprouting-like-weeds dept.
Carl Bialik from WSJ writes "Gary Hamel, visiting professor at London Business School, argues in a Wall Street Journal commentary that Google's 'novel management system seems to have been designed to guard against the risk factors that so often erode an organization's evolutionary potential.' Among Google's advantages: The 20% rule, an 'expansive sense of purpose' and the credo, 'keep the bozos out and reward people who make a difference.' Hamel also traces the company's evolution from Google 1.0, 'a search engine that crawled the Web but generated little revenue,' to Google 5.0, 'an innovation factory that produces a torrent of new Web-based services, including Gmail, Google Desktop, and Google Base. More than likely, 6.0 is around the corner.'"
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Novell? (Score:1, Funny)
Wrong versioning scheme (Score:5, Funny)
Fixed.
The Friendly Giant... (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://www.spadez.net/ws)
All that said, how long can Google really maintain it's unorthadox business methods while allowing VERY orthadox investors to buy stocks in the company. I'd say it's only a matter of time, and the price for become a truly large corporation. I can only hope that I am wrong.
Re:The Friendly Giant... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The Friendly Giant... (Score:5, Interesting)
If these companies continue to communicate to their share holders the sustained benefits of long term gain, we won't see a signifigant change in their unorthadox business methods.
Reminds me (Score:5, Interesting)
Really great book if you're interested in the ideas behind firms like Google.
Remember when Yahoo was the darling? (Score:2, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Friday October 13 2006, @05:34PM)
As a previous poster said, as it gets bigger, things will not go as well. Just as everyone turned on MicroSoft, I'm sure one say everyone will turn on Google as well. We're a fickle industry.
Whooops (Score:1, Funny)
The article title came out "Google's management (has) AIDS"
Oops.
An innovation factory.... (Score:2)
(http://tomcopeland.blogs.com/)
We're using it for the indi [getindi.com] downloads and it's been working great - especially when paired with the Ruby API [blogs.com].
God I hope it lasts... (Score:1, Insightful)
(http://thenoxx.deviantart.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday November 30 2005, @04:14PM)
Eh, at least that's what I've seen happen. Hope I don't get modded down too much by angry managers.
Re:God I hope it lasts... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:God I hope it lasts... (Score:5, Interesting)
Google just hired him to do business development. Unlike the stories I hear about how difficult it is to get hired there, he did very little work to get the position except submit a resume - in fact, it was more like they were actively looking for someone like him.
Anyways, perhaps that's some sort of indicator of the MBA types Google is recruiting.
Re:God I hope it lasts... (Score:5, Insightful)
And in 2016, Google becomes self aware..... (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.redorbit.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday October 07, @03:44AM)
and:
"Google seems to have grasped the new century's most important business lesson: The capacity to evolve is the most important advantage of all."
My bet is on Google to solce the problems of a working A.I., maybe by accident, maybe by design.
I would take issue with one point from the article (Score:5, Insightful)
Elitism may be out of fashion, but Google is famously elitist when it comes to hiring. It understands that companies begin to slide into mediocrity when they start to hire mediocre people. A-level people want to work with A-level people.
The only problem is that a company cannot thrive longterm with only A-level people. As a software company grows and matures so the average age of the company code base increases, and there's a gradually increasing requirement for maintenance of the older products. A-level people rarely consider their primary task in life is settling in as a maintenance coder on products that are no longer considered to have a substantial "wow" factor.
Having said that, code maintenance can be some of the most demanding work around, as programmers are asked to come up to speed on outdated code they didn't write and make it do things it was never designed to do. But, speaking generally, this isn't considered something that will make you stand out in your company and it's not where A-level people want to be.
Equally well, having everyone take a turn at maintenance doesn't work either. I would imagine that there's few programming tasks worse than taking over code that's been maintained by half a dozen people who only wanted to move on to other things. You probably aren't going to get any of the awards mentioned in the article by burying yourself in old code, regardless how valuable that might be.
Re:I would take issue with one point from the arti (Score:5, Insightful)
The whole point of googles flat structure makes it possible to have maintenance be a sexy task within the organization by allowing rewards to go where they should go too. I would say that 'most companies' create the hierarchy because they don't have the guts to manage the way that google does.
I've worked at far too many companies where the disconnect between espoused values and actual values create the kind of situation you describe (ie maintenance coding is a loser job, best avoided or gotten promoted out of).
WSJ is submitting articles now? (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://xenu.net/)
Novel? (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.urbandb.com/)
i disagree with the evolutionary steps (Score:5, Interesting)
It should be:
Google 1.0: A nobody search engine
Google 2.0: Outsourcing search engine
Google 3.0: Contextual ads in searches
Google 4.0: Adsense network
Google 4.1: Information hoarding of users
My version 4.1 highlights Google's recent overt interest in aggregating data on its users through services like the personalized homepage, Gmail, Gcal, Gchat, and the Google Desktop. Why is it not 5.0? Because these enhance the previously established revenue streams without changing the way they make money. It is not an evolution in Google's financial model, just new ways to better target their contextual ads (3.0 and 4.0).
In order for a 5.0 to happen, Google has to redefine its primary revenue stream or add a new one that pulls in revenue from a seperate audience. My point is made most clear by highlighting the benefiting party of each evolutionary step:
Google 1.0: A nobody search engine - You and me
Google 2.0: Outsourcing search engine - Yahoo/AOL/portals
Google 3.0: Contextual ads in searches - Web advertisers
Google 4.0: Adsense network - Web masters
Google 4.1: Information hoarding of users
Likely candidates for a 5.0 would be:
Television or radio advertisement domination
Online music store, or other type of goods for cash type of business
Online payment system (clone paypal)
A novel online service as a subscription service (seems least likely with Google's history)
Those would be Google 5.0.
Usenet Death Penalty for Google Groups (Score:3, Interesting)
Call for UDP against Google Groups [google.com]
Bozos, etc. (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.cobios.org/john/gallery/)
Well, everybody does that, don't they? Even the Bush administration does that. The key is in your perception of who the bozos are, and who makes a difference...
torrent of new Web-based services (Score:2, Funny)
Anyone got a link to this torrent?
Novel Management... (Score:2, Funny)
(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
Keep the Bozos out (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://www.samba-choro.com.br)
The premisse is that you can reduce all the richness of human beings to an unidimensional measure. The best teams I worked with have a diversity of talents, each one contributing for the success.
Re:Keep the Bozos out (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.edgeio.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday March 09 2005, @10:42AM)
Hiring above the mean makes sense for jobs where a better employee means a potentially higher return for the company - it does not make sense for positions where a better employee means higher costs and no higher return and higher turnover.
In fact, for a large number of positions, it makes sense to look for the weakest candidate that can do the job satisfactorily within reasonable margins, assuming you get a chance to hire them at a matching salary, because such candidates are more likely to have a possible career ladder (and so be more likely to stay) and/or are more likely to stay because it's harder for them to move elsewhere, and are likely to be cheaper than the alternatives.
Even if you're looking purely at developer jobs, if you keep hiring above the mean, it means eventually you'll have people with PhD's and umpteen years experience doing routine maintenance programming for trivial, non-critical systems that you could have safely handed to some intern.
I Would Never Work For Google..... (Score:1)
Shocking News! Guru likes Google (Score:1)
Most innovation theorists in b-schools would desperately like to believe that managing a whole company like an R&D lab is the way to go. It may be true, but Google hasn't shown it yet. Their money-making business models (AdWords/AdSense) were mostly developed (or stumbled upon) before Google grew into this "innovation factory".
Less glamourous but effective models for the long term, like the Toyota Production System, demand that management have an absolute grip on how their business operates, and always compare their performance vs. some measurable reality. The rest is tools and techniques.
In Search of Excellence? (Score:2)
Now if a writer looked at 100 start-up companies and predicted which ones would succeed and which ones would fail in the next 5 years based on their management practices and he got most of them right, I'd be impressed. Picking today's winners is all too easy.
Add 'enormous hubris' to the Google motto (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://www.utki.com/)
Let's wait 5 years to see if Google is indeed so wonderful, ground-breaking, innovative blah blah blah.
The rapid growth trajectory they are on at the moment has been traced by many tech and other companies in the past, and along the way things get more complicated and organisations and their environment can change dramatically, often for the worse. G. are not unique in this or any respect, and don't live outside of history.
I'd also like to dispute statements that Google is "an innovation factory that produces a torrent of new Web-based services, including Gmail, Google Desktop, and Google Base "? There is nothing innovative about the items in that list at all - Google didn't invent (nor even significantly improve) web-based email, nor web-based database front-ends, nor good search algorithms nor desktop search nor photo-sharing on the web nor web-based satellite mapping nor the delivery of contextual web-based advertising etc etc etc. And to call the 'Google Desktop' an innovation when it is just a round up of basic software tools (many of which aren't even Google's) is especially dumb.
There is, in fact, very little that Google has done in terms of products or its business model that is 'innovative' by any stretch of the imagination. Let's face it, they haven't really invented much at all.
They are indeed very good at buying up other small innovative companies, they do web search well, they run a good ad banner network in AdSense, and offer good software like GDS, Picasa, SketchUp and other titles for free. I thank them for that, and their business has indeed successfully delivered those things to me and millions of other people, but I'm not going to lose my sense of judgement about the company because of these nice but hardly innovative achievements.
Enron (Score:3, Interesting)
Another company that hired only A-level talent, robustly avoided B-level talent, ran strong internal competitions to try and attract other employees onto your star project, and talked a lot about "darwinian" processes running between internal projects was: Enron
Like Google now, Enron back in the day had management consultants writing magazine articles about the wonders of their "fluid" structure, the way petty beaurocrats were kept out of people's way, and their hiring practices. It was The Way Of The Future. Enron was the best, was going to take over and Rule Supreme. Like Google, Enron was proud that it didn't just keep to one boring idea of what they did, the company could perpetually reinvented itself.
Those standard management structures exist for a reason. If google finds a way to work without them long-term, then good for them. But it's harder than it might seem.
So "Dr. Enron" Hamel Likes Google too! (Score:2, Informative)
Googles 20% +10% rule is jsut best practice from the 3M post-it case taught to every HBS MBA with the 10% twist. It works. Its not new. Google does some things exceptionally well. But I don't need a revisionist telling me about that.
This isn't new (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Googles problem will be their increasing size (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Googles problem will be their increasing size (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Wednesday March 21 2007, @11:19AM)
I completely agree with you. Those big companies are in trouble. IBM after all showed only a 25% growth in profit for Q1 2006. And, just a few minutes before I posted this, Microsoft announced a small jump of 16% growth in profit AND a 13% growth in revenue. Leaving the tech industry, Exxon Mobile had a horrible quarter with only $89 Billion in Revenue.
Yeah, those large companies, they are just falling apart....Oh, wait...
Re:Googles problem will be their increasing size (Score:1)
Problems will increase when they don't deliver (Score:2)
This all stinks of geese and golden eggs, but Wall Street's memory of positive indicators only extends to the last quarterly result.
Re:Profit? (Score:2, Informative)