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Google Web Accelerator

Posted by samzenpus on Wed May 04, 2005 06:14 PM
from the google-faster dept.
Lukey Boy writes "Google has released a free web accelerator product for both Firefox and Internet Explorer. According to their information page the software uses Google servers as a proxy for web content, delivering the pages to your system more rapidly and compressing them beforehand."
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  • I keed! I keed! (Score:5, Funny)

    by coupland (160334) * <dchase@h o t m ail.com> on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:15PM (#12436564)
    (Last Journal: Wednesday November 01 2006, @03:06PM)

    I'm using it now and couldn't be happier! It's already saved me over 10 seconds, and there's no catch!

    ---
    Find Google results for "catch" [google.ca]
    Sign up for free webmail at http://gmail.google.com/ [google.com]
    Resistance is fut... er... Try Google, we're not evil!

  • Smart. Scary. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by lecithin (745575) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:16PM (#12436566)
    Cute...

    First, they collect your search information. Next they collected your email. Now they collect your destination. You put it all together, that is quite a bit of information.

    What is next?

    Very Smart..Very Scary...

    Tinfoil, Post!
    • Re:Smart. Scary. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:18PM (#12436602)
      Next they modify the data you receive to influence your opinion.
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      • Re:Smart. Scary. by SpaceLifeForm (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:52PM
      • Re:Smart. Scary. by hweimer (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @03:31AM
      • Re:Smart. Scary. by adepali (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @04:43AM
      • Re:Smart. Scary. by mst (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @04:49AM
      • Re:Smart. Scary. (Score:5, Funny)

        by MarkusQ (450076) on Thursday May 05 2005, @07:52AM (#12440378)
        (Last Journal: Friday January 19 2007, @04:54PM)
        Next they modify the data you receive to influence your opinion.

        Oh yeah? I just Googled for this very topic and there is absolutly no proof of that sort of thing. Ever. To Anyone. You'd think that if it were true somebody would have blogged about it. So you must just be parinoid.

        --MarkusQ

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      • Re:Smart. Scary. by eille-la (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @11:49AM
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    • Re:Smart. Scary. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by soupdevil (587476) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:21PM (#12436645)
      What's next? Hopefully a calender. I'd love a free online replacement for Outlook.
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    • Re:Smart. Scary. by Scruffeh (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:25PM
      • Re:Smart. Scary. by airjrdn (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:27PM
      • Re:Smart. Scary. by jp10558 (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:59PM
        • Re:Smart. Scary. by Tyler Eaves (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:30PM
        • Re:Smart. Scary. by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:53PM
        • Re:Smart. Scary. by cakoose (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:57PM
        • Re:Smart. Scary. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:27PM
        • Re:Smart. Scary. by slizz (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:43PM
        • Re:Smart. Scary. by Kris_J (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:27PM
        • Why you "can't really see" (Score:5, Informative)

          by seanadams.com (463190) * on Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:01PM (#12438110)
          (http://www.seanadams.com/)
          I can't really see what google (or anyone for that matter) can really do to accelerate web content on broadband connections. [...] There is no good reason to sign up for this.

          The reason you're skeptical is because you don't know as much about the Internet as google does.

          When you download a web page on your 6Mbps cable modem, do you think it instanly goes to 6Mbps throughput, transfers the page, and then drops to zero? It doesn't. The efficiency *decreases* as your connection gets faster (which is why google does not claim to speed up slow connections - there's little room for improvement). Here's why:

          The TCP stack under your browser starts by establishing a connection (3 way handshake). Then it sends a packet with the HTTP request. Finally after those long round trip times of basically doing nothing, your browser starts receiving HTML. As the HTML comes in, the process repeats for the embedded stuff (images). If you have a fast link (and especially if the server is far away), your link spends a lot of time doing nothing while connections are established and transactions take place.

          By routing your connection through google, many efficiencies can be gained. These are listed in, of all places TFA [google.com]. It's not just caching, either. Prefetching, for example, is a trick where their servers will start requesting and transferring the images within a web page, even before your browser has requested them. Since the HTML already went through google's proxy, they know what your browser is going to request before your browser does.

          So instead of just pooh-poohing it because you don't understand the technology, why don't you go download a copy of Ethereal [ethereal.com], which will let you see these tricks in action. Then you can offer us a more educated opinion based on empirical fact, instead of a long diatribe amounting to "I don't understand how it works, therefore it sucks".
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          • Re:Why you "can't really see" (Score:5, Informative)

            by jp10558 (748604) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:17PM (#12438202)
            All that is great, except for 2 things.

            One, you can do prefetching without selling your soul to google. Allegrosurf is good at this.

            Two, pipelining. All modern browsers use pipelining, which severely limits the amount of handshaking that needs to be done to a server.

            Final comment, from what I've seen, the people who are using this program (at least with Opera) seem to see no improvement in the first hour or so of use. In fact, some are reporting slowdowns.

            I maintain my reservations about this being able to offer a significant boost to browsing, especially when contrasted to the major privacy intrusion.
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          • Re:Why you "can't really see" by radish (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:50PM
          • Re:Why you "can't really see" by ZephyrXero (Score:3) Thursday May 05 2005, @12:03AM
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        • Re:Smart. Scary. by CAIMLAS (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @11:05PM
    • Exactly. by CarpetShark (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:28PM
      • Re:Exactly. (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Johnboi Waltune (462501) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:55PM (#12436947)
        Google has spent years maintaining the highest ethical standards... I don't think they would piss away their credibility for profit, especially since they aren't hurting for cash in the first place.

        I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt. There are lots of cool things they could do with the information, used in aggregate. They could recommend websites to you by correlating your browsing history with others, kind of the same way Amazon.com recommends products. I for one think that would be cool.
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        • Re:Exactly. by shadowsurfr1 (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:21PM
          • Re:Exactly. by Ninwa (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:49PM
            • Re:Exactly. by shadowsurfr1 (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:52PM
        • Until they start trying to combine browsing habits into one.

          "Based on your recent browsing habits, Google would like to suggest MidgetsHavingSexWithFerretsInSpace.com"

          All I wanted was a smaller computer, a pet toy, and some homework help....GOOOOOOOGLEEEEEEEEEe

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          • Re:Exactly. by vslashg (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:31PM
          • Re:Exactly. by Jah-Wren Ryel (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @01:55AM
            • Re:Exactly. by lloydtesterman (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @11:26AM
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        • Re:Exactly. by Zak3056 (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:35PM
          • Re:Exactly. by MobileC (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:16PM
          • Re:Exactly. by rbarreira (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:43PM
            • Re:Exactly. by tekunokurato (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @10:18AM
              • Re:Exactly. by rbarreira (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @02:26PM
              • Re:Exactly. by tekunokurato (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @02:48PM
          • Re:Exactly. by SacredNaCl (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @12:33AM
        • Re:Exactly. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:20PM
        • Re:Exactly. by pigwin32 (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:43PM
          • Re:Exactly. by mikkom (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @04:42AM
            • Re:Exactly. by pigwin32 (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @11:39PM
        • You ignorant little monkeys by lohphat (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:47PM
        • Re:Exactly. (Score:4, Interesting)

          Google has spent years maintaining the highest ethical standards... I don't think they would piss away their credibility for profit, especially since they aren't hurting for cash in the first place.

          Of course, it's not always "now" that these problems occur. One reason that one maintains strict ethical breaks between various organizations is not to protect them when they're strong, but on the assumption that one is not always strong every day.

          I heard a few years back that Reader's Digest was not doing economically well and that their biggest asset turned out to be a repository of the reading habits of a huge part of the US population. Even if they were not inclined to sell out, they were still candidate for takeover by another company buying them just for this data and not for their editorial work or revenue stream. I didn't end up following the news, so I don't know how it turned out, or even that this account I'd heard was correct. (Maybe someone else knows better can offer more info here.) But even if you take it only as a hypothetical, it seems pretty plausible that such things could happen.

          Big companies have sometimes fallen. And one would like to believe we haven't entered a political climate where that will never happen again, even if one doesn't have a deathwish for any particular big company. So what if Google gets all this stuff and then gets either nervous or outright cheap... If their size and economic power is what protects us now, what protects us then?

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        • Re:Exactly. (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Mad_Rain (674268) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:02PM (#12437760)
          (Last Journal: Sunday May 18 2003, @11:53PM)
          Google has spent years maintaining the highest ethical standards...

          Which makes me wonder:

          ...My company's firewall filters some objectionable content

          ...My company's firewall does not filter Google

          ...would I (or others) be able to surf for objectionable content through Google and bypass the company firewall this way?

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        • Re:Exactly. by william.gunn (Score:1) Monday May 09 2005, @10:34AM
        • Re:Exactly. by jericho4.0 (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:07PM
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      • Re:Exactly. by Sancho (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:00PM
        • correct (Score:5, Interesting)

          by adpowers (153922) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:05PM (#12437018)
          Exactly. Now they can find pages that are rarely linked, yet may be valuable. I wonder if this also might allow them to search the 'deep web'. Imagine a user with this browsing an online chemistry database where the only way to find info is by filling out some text fields on a website. Now Google will be able to find this deep websites by having users due all the grunt work.

          Also, they might use info about popular pages and browsing habits to improve search results (like I'm sure they are doing now with the Search History feature).

          Andrew

          PS: As soon as I saw this on GoogleBlog I realized the 'privacy' freaks were going to flip. If you don't like it, don't use it.
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          • Re:correct (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:31PM (#12437228)
            Not only that, but it is also a beautiful solution to all the googlebombing, keyword-linking pages.

            You know what I mean. Thousands of pages with nothing but keywords, some random readable text, and links to pages whose ranking they want to pump. These have become sofisticated enough that you can't tell them apart from real web pages just by looking at their linking patterns.

            So what's the difference? Real pages are actually visited by people while spam pages aren't. You can use aggregated browsing data to set apart useful from non-useful pages.

            Add this to Trust Rank and you got a winner. All you need is a very large amount of bandwidth.
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            • Re:correct (Score:4, Interesting)

              by adpowers (153922) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:52PM (#12437710)
              Good point, may I add to it?

              This may also help them determine which links are also useful. Remember that blog software company that was caught hosting spam pages (it was on /. a few months back)? They were a perfectly valid website and had lots of visitors, but hidden on the front page were a bunch of links to the spams. Google would hit these links, but almost no actual humans would. That is sort of along the lines of what you said, but it would allow them to be even more fine grained (find the links that users are likely to hit). Hmm, hopefully that makes sense, it did in my brain.

              Andrew
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              • Re:correct by imaginate (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @08:33AM
            • Re:correct by vitaflo (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @11:49PM
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      • Re:Exactly. by bluelip (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:03PM
        • Re:Exactly. by enosys (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:07PM
        • Re:Exactly. by Jugalator (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:17PM
      • Re:Exactly. by erebor (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:09PM
        • Re:Exactly. by Onan (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @03:44AM
      • Re:Exactly. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by natrius (642724) * <niran@nir a n . o rg> on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:11PM (#12437081)
        (http://niran.org/)
        Let's look at the information Google currently has to generate search results from.
        1. The content of each webpage (text, images, video, anything really)
        2. The number of pages that link to a page in question
        3. The words that people use to link to a page
        4. The sites that people click on after searching for a term
        These by themselves generate pretty good results, but sometimes this information can be deceptive. The more metrics you have to measure relevance by, the better.

        So now, Google offers to cache the Internet from everyone. What can they get out of this? Well, everyone here is speculating about the evil things, so I'll leave those as a given. What I haven't seen so far is a very valuable piece of information they get from this: web traffic. They get to see how many people go to web sites, what time, where they got referred from, and anything else that can be deciphered from someone's web traffic. Not only can they rank pages by how many people link to a page, they get to see how often each link is actually used to get to the page. That's extremely valuable, because it's hard to fake convincingly. Web sites won't be able to plant links around the Internet to increase their ranking, because if no one actually clicks the link, then it's not important in the first place. That is awesome.

        Why didn't I think of that?
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      • Re:Exactly. (Score:4, Insightful)

        money from your personal browsing records.

        They want to know what everyone is searching for in a given moment, and model their advertising business around that information. This is the purpose behind Gmail and Google Groups.

        This is their business model. They are an Ad business first, and a search engine second.

        They will gain information from your personal browsing records. Their advertising business can use this information with direct-market advertisements, future trend prediction, etc.

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        • Re:Exactly. (Score:5, Funny)

          by Petronius (515525) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:56PM (#12438427)

          They want to know what everyone is searching for in a given moment

          that's the easy part:

          - lesbian sex
          - natalie portman
          - desperate housewives
          - desparate housewives having lesbian sex with natalie portman
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          • Re:Exactly. by d474 (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @11:33PM
          • Re:Exactly. by jasonjacks0n (Score:1) Friday May 06 2005, @06:50PM
      • Re:Exactly. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Jugalator (259273) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:13PM (#12437100)
        (Last Journal: Monday February 13 2006, @07:11PM)
        Google offering to proxy the web for everyone cannot make sense unless they're planning to make a lot of money from your personal browsing records.

        Hmm, money? Yes, in the end of course they need to profit from it. Google is not charity organization, and have a ton of expenses. However,money how? is a more interesting question.

        I can't believe Google will simply sell the results to some third party -- that would look pretty bad PR-wise, and Google has so far tried to avoid these things as well as possible. Something more commonly seen with Google is beating the competition by providing good and accurate search services. If they do that, they gain a larger market share since they're simply better, and that will make companies willing to pay more for AdWords. Tadaa, Google in a nutshell, and how they've always worked.

        So I basically think it may have something to do with this [slashdot.org]. What better foundation for a TrustRank system can you get, than one where you know how visited sites are? Scam sites would only get sporadic visitors from fooled Internet users and have their PageRank drop like a rock, while news sites, popular gaming sites, and so on, would get large numbers of returning users. Cross-linking scam sites would find out that their exploits wouldn't work very well anymore, and Google could possible tune their rank system to let both PageRank and TrustRank have an influence on the final rank. Sounds like the regular Google philosophy of conquering by improving. And they'd need our browsing habits to pull it off.
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        • Re:Exactly. by vertinox (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:30PM
        • Re:Exactly. by ThePromenader (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:04PM
          • Re:Exactly. by william.gunn (Score:1) Monday May 09 2005, @10:43AM
            • Re:Exactly. by ThePromenader (Score:1) Tuesday May 10 2005, @05:34AM
        • Re:Exactly. by Rutulian (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:23PM
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      • Re:Exactly. by Koiu Lpoi (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:03PM
      • Re:Exactly. by maddugan (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:31PM
      • Re:Exactly. by yppiz (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:42PM
      • Re:Exactly. by fm6 (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:54PM
      • Re:Exactly. by Andrewkov (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:59PM
      • Re:Exactly. by volkris (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @07:05AM
      • but at least they warn you by Jafa (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @03:05PM
      • Re:Exactly. by Sir Pallas (Score:1) Friday May 06 2005, @12:13PM
        • Re:Exactly. by CarpetShark (Score:2) Friday May 06 2005, @12:20PM
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    • Re:Smart. Scary. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by saforrest (184929) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:32PM (#12436746)
      (http://wandership.ca/ | Last Journal: Tuesday February 01 2005, @08:03PM)
      First, they collect your search information. Next they collected your email. Now they collect your destination. You put it all together, that is quite a bit of information.

      Add to that your Usenet posts [google.com], where you're going or where you live [google.com], what you're buying [google.com], what kind of news you're interested in [google.com], and maybe even who your friends are [orkut.com].

      But all that's only true if you give them the information. Even so, the quantity that Google could know about me just given all the Google stuff I've used from one single IP address is rather alarming.

      But I don't mind. This is partly because I don't think they're jerks (as far as public corporations go, anyway), but mostly still because I don't think they really care.

      If we had a lot of evidence they did care, then I suspect that there would immediately exist a movement for 'free', anonymous versions of whatever services Google currently provides.
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      • Re:Smart. Scary. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by lecithin (745575) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:36PM (#12436789)
        "But I don't mind. This is partly because I don't think they're jerks (as far as public corporations go, anyway), but mostly still because I don't think they really care.
        "

        I apologize, but I think that you are being naive.

        Perhaps they are not 'jerks' but they do care. Every thing that they log is information. Knowledge is Power.

        Just my thoughts.

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      • Re:Smart. Scary. by Ninwa (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:38PM
        • Re:Smart. Scary. (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Class Act Dynamo (802223) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:03PM (#12437403)
          (http://www.informagoriam.com/)
          There's one thing we must consider. Let's give them full benefit of the doubt now. They are aggregating this information for the most non-evil purposes that exist. The problem is, what if the Google culture changes five or ten years from now. What if somehow the founders are forced out and the Google is run by people with nefarious intentions. Worse, what if Google corp. falls on hard times, gets desperate, and sees selling information as a quick fix when they are in a pickle. That would be my big worry.
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      • Re:Smart. Scary. by 77Punker (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:02PM
      • Re:Smart. Scary. (Score:5, Insightful)

        by spagetti_code (773137) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:07PM (#12437040)
        Google say they will do no evil. Great, and I trust that.

        But what I also trust is that they will open their doors and computers very wide to the first FBI agent with a supboena, especially with the full weight of The [i-newswire.com] Patriot [wikipedia.org] Act. [slashdot.org]

        Judges are handing wiretapping orders out like confetti, [slashdot.org] so you need to consider that any information held by any company belongs to the government at any time. All your base belong to us. And what's even scarier is that no-one is allowed to talk about it - all requests for info come with gag orders.

        I'd be willing to bet that Google have already been approached for information.

        What i'd like to know is what sort of data mining expertise the FBI is gathering in preparation for getting their hands on all googles files.

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        • Re:Smart. Scary. by cicho (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:20PM
        • FBI Google nub by D_Lehman(at)ISPAN.or (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @12:56AM
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        • Re:Smart. Scary. by Snaller (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @08:37AM
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      • Re:Smart. Scary. by bjelkeman (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @04:28AM
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    • Re:Smart. Scary. by Skal Tura (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:34PM
    • do no evil! (Score:4, Insightful)

      by SuperBanana (662181) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:35PM (#12436782)
      Very Smart..Very Scary...

      "Don't worry. Their motto is 'do no evil', so we can trust them!", say the geek masses.

      Dow Chemical's motto is "Living. Improved Daily". Unless you're one of 15,000-30,000 people in Bhopal, India [wikipedia.org], of course.

      Ford's motto is "Ford: Quality is #1". Well, except for the Ford Pinto (or its modern equivalent, the Ford Crown Victoria, which is burning police to death left+right). Or Ford Explorers, where management ignored engineering reports saying the roof pillars were substantially weaker. Or ignition switches in millions of Ford vehicles which would catch fire- even if you weren't using the car? Then there's the Ford Focus, which I think is close to setting the world record on factory recalls...

      Then there's GE- "we bring good things to life". Well, I don't think the people who have been harmed by dioxin poisoning would agree with you there. But hey, GE will sell you a nice water filtration system (seriously- go into Home Depot, GE is the featured brand. Note how it brags about removing industrial toxins?)

      Microsoft says "enabling people and businesses to realize their full potential", something I think we can all give a good chortle about, considering how grossly unreliable virtually every Windows release has been, how incompatible their software is one year to the next, piss-poor interoperability, anticompetitive practices, licensing costs, spyware, viruses, etc.

      Need I go on to prove that corporate PR lines are just that- nothing more than PR lines? Or should I mention that Google AdSense terms prohibited AdSense customers from discussing, in public or private, their experience/satisfaction with AdSense? Hmm. Now, why would a "do no evil" corporation do something like that?

      [ Parent ]
      • Re:do no evil! by oldwolf13 (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:50PM
      • why no talking about adsense (Score:5, Interesting)

        by KalvinB (205500) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:07PM (#12437051)
        (http://www.icarusindie.com/)
        most likely because they want to maximize the value of adsense. If everyone were all talking about how much money they were making on AdSense people would start propping up pages to target the most lucrative ads (they do already). The value of those ads would then go down. As it is it's all a big mystery and so people for the most part don't consider AdSense when deciding what content to put on-line.

        The other problem with talking about AdSense performance is that your success or failure a) can't be proven and b) could influence other's decisions to or not to market using Adsense. How well or not someone else's site is doing with AdSense has exactly zero to do with how well it will do on your site but people think it does anyway.

        If Google took away the gag you'd have thousands of people bitching about how little their site is making and it would make Google look bad even though it has nothing to do with them. Sorry but your crappy little Geocities site isn't going to generate enough traffic to allow you to quit your day job. You'd also have people going on and on about how much they're making which would cause people to have unrealistic expectations.

        Google wants entire control of the PR side of AdSense which is reasonable. It's how they pay the bills and make investors happy.

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      • Re:do no evil! by iammaxus (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:14PM
      • Re:do no evil! by natrius (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:19PM
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      • Re:do no evil! (Score:5, Informative)

        by Dun Malg (230075) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:54PM (#12437360)
        (https://addons.mozil...&application=firefox)
        Dow Chemical's motto is "Living. Improved Daily". Unless you're one of 15,000-30,000 people in Bhopal, India, of course.

        Nice troll. Inflamatory, and correct only by a tenuous strand of tortured logic. It was Union Carbide who gassed Bhopal, which didn't merge with Dow until 1999, a full fifteen years after the incident, and five years after Union Carbide sold its 51% interest in the Bhopal facility.

        [ Parent ]
        • Re:do no evil! by cicho (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:30PM
        • Re:do no evil! (Score:5, Insightful)

          by radish (98371) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:44PM (#12438362)
          (http://slashdot.org/)
          So? When you do something like Union Carbide did, you have a responsibility. If you get bought out by some other company (Dow in this case) they just bought that responsibility. They should not be allowed to wash their hands of the whole mess just by selling the plant and then selling the company.
          [ Parent ]
        • Re:do no evil! by incognitopoet (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @11:32PM
      • Re:do no evil! by coolsva (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:55PM
      • Re:do no evil! by Zphbeeblbrox (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:33PM
      • Re:do no evil! by d474 (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @11:41PM
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    • Re:Smart. Scary. by okvol (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:38PM
    • Re:Smart. Scary. by mikael (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:46PM
    • Re:Smart. Scary. by Southpaw018 (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:27PM
    • Re:Smart. Scary. by ryusen (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:37PM
    • Re:Smart. Scary. by d_jedi (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:02PM
    • Re:Smart. Scary. by deasach (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:30PM
    • Re:Smart. Scary. by shutdown -p now (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @04:18AM
    • Hopefully.. by Snaller (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @08:06AM
    • Re:Smart. Scary. by FlimFlamboyant (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @09:40AM
    • What is next? Hopefully folders for Gmail. by glrotate (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @10:27AM
    • Re:Smart. Scary. by shakezula (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:31PM
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    • Re:Smart. Scary. (Score:5, Insightful)

      I still find it strange that people will panic about a company that collects some personal information yet they'll cope with the fact that there's a god, somewhere, knowing all...

      I don't know if there is a god (I prefer to believe in the provable) but the fact that I can cope with a possible god knowing everything about me doesn't mean I like it. Theres not a hell of a lot we can do about a possible god, google on the other hand...
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Smart. Scary. by Cromac (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:25PM
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  • Start your engines gentlemen! by grazzy (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:16PM
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  • Woohoo! by versiondub (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:16PM
  • When is google going to learn that aggregation is not the way of the future? They will eventually become so large their shareholders will be able to turn them into a giant evil machine, much lik current companies.
  • Hmm, (Score:3, Interesting)

    by killa62 (828317) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:16PM (#12436575)
    But how does it know how many minutes you save?
    • Re:Hmm, by CyanDisaster (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:24PM
    • Re:Hmm, by SSalvatore (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:32PM
    • Re:Hmm, by j_hirny (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:41PM
    • Re:Hmm, by caluml (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @02:33AM
  • Slashdot effect? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by blackmonday (607916) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:16PM (#12436576)
    (http://www.loscreepers.net/)
    Could this solve the slashdot effect problem, if we're all running it? Are ads associated with it?

    • Re:Slashdot effect? by LewsTherinKinslayer (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:27PM
    • Re:Slashdot effect? by tcpli (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:45PM
    • Re:Slashdot effect? by Ninwa (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:48PM
    • Re:Slashdot effect? by EpsCylonB (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:50PM
    • Re:Slashdot effect? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by jangobongo (812593) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:55PM (#12436940)
      The "What Webmasters Need To Know About Google Web Accelerator" [google.com] page touches on this:
      Will Google Web Accelerator affect my server load or usage statistics?

      It depends on whether your pages are cacheable. You can identify page requests prefetched by Google Web Accelerator through the HTTP header X-moz: prefetch. You can learn more about this header on the Mozilla [mozilla.org] website.
      Am I reading this right? If the page has been cached at Google, Google will use that cache for the preloading. And webmasters can do certain things to aid the prefetching function.

      So it sounds to me that if the website being slashdotted is cache-able (and the slashdotters have this accelerator), it could ease the website's server load.
      [ Parent ]
    • Improved Page Rank (Score:5, Insightful)

      by skraps (650379) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:04PM (#12437010)
      This could be used to provide a better Page Rank. Instead of determining worth based on links that exist, they will determine it based on links that are used.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Slashdot effect? by doctong (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @02:47PM
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  • Do no evil, i hope (Score:3, Funny)

    by neoform (551705) <ian@newsique.com> on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:16PM (#12436577)
    (http://www.newsique.com/)
    Considering this looks like a way for google to simply track every site i visit.. i sure hope they really aren't.. "evil".. :-/
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  • free webstats (Score:5, Interesting)

    by fitsnips (187974) <spam@@@fitsnips...net> on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:16PM (#12436579)
    (http://jassinpain.net/)
    will they provide you with your web surfing trend stats?
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  • The irony.. (Score:3, Funny)

    by OlivierB (709839) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:16PM (#12436581)
    Webaccelerator's page is slashdotted...
    • Re:The irony.. by mattdev121 (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:04PM
  • hmmm (Score:3, Interesting)

    by willscott (674036) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:17PM (#12436582)
    is this really able to speed stuff up if you have broadband? not sure if i really belive them.
    • Re:hmmm by cornjones (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:07PM
    • Re:hmmm by kagelump (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:52PM
  • Break out the tin foil by djtripp (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:17PM
  • More info (Score:5, Informative)

    by ranson (824789) * on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:17PM (#12436584)
    (http://ranson.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday May 10 2007, @03:17PM)
    More information about GWA is posted here: http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/050504-1453 07 [searchenginewatch.com] Also, browsers other than Firefox and Mozilla can take advantage of GWA if you set them to proxy requests over Localhost:9100 while GWA is running in the system tray. It should also be pointed out that this is apparently geared towards broadband users.
  • isn't this basically a proxy? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by yagu (721525) * <<moc.liamg> <ta> <ugayay>> on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:17PM (#12436585)
    (Last Journal: Friday November 16, @09:48AM)

    I've RTF(ine)A and I give... what makes this different/better/faster/whatever than a proxy server?

    And, while I'm at it.... I submit my vote that Google make linux/*nix versions of their stuff more quickly/readily. I find it no small irony that a company that relies on over 10,000 linux servers (actually I think the number may exceed 40,000) essentially making them one of the largest benficiaries of the OSS community they don't yet have a Google Desktop, nor are offering a beta of this accelerator for the linux community.

    Don't get me wrong, I like Google, think they've done great stuff, but come on -- how about paying back a little to the hand that giveth.

    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? by Mifflesticks (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:24PM
    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:25PM
    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Zocalo (252965) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:28PM (#12436715)
      (http://www.zocalo.uk.com/)
      what makes this different/better/faster/whatever than a proxy server?

      Nothing really that I can see other than that it will always compress which is something that some sites do not have enabled, which should offer some speed ups and help reduce over all web traffic. I'd assume that this is tied into Google's cache used on the search engine, so if you request a page through the proxy for which the cached data is stale it will update that also, then re-index the data for the search engine. If so, this could be *very* useful for alleviating things like the Slashdot effect, although it would need to pull the graphics to be of any real use here. The problem with caching the graphics though, is that it's going to make it *really* difficult for Ad-Blockers to work out which files are ads and which are not...

      [ Parent ]
    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by _undan (804517) <dan@undumb.com> on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:39PM (#12436812)
      Draw a circle. This is all the people using a F/OSS desktop environment.

      Now, draw another circle inside that one, almost exactly the same size, but not quite. These are the F/OSS zealots who won't install anything unless it's GNU licenced.

      The area between the boundaries of those two circles are the only people who would install it. And I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure the other guy in that part of the chart understands that.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by natrius (642724) * <niran@nir a n . o rg> on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:41PM (#12436832)
      (http://niran.org/)
      I find it no small irony that a company that relies on over 10,000 linux servers (actually I think the number may exceed 40,000) essentially making them one of the largest benficiaries of the OSS community they don't yet have a Google Desktop, nor are offering a beta of this accelerator for the linux community.

      Uh, it's not ironic at all. As you said, they use Linux servers, not desktops. Those servers don't need Google Desktop or Webaccelerator.

      Don't get me wrong, I like Google, think they've done great stuff, but come on -- how about paying back a little to the hand that giveth.

      You think they're trying to do Windows users a favor by releasing these products? They're doing it for themselves. They make money off of these products by solidifying their mindshare and marketshare. Releasing Linux versions (or OS X versions, for that matter) obviously isn't worth it to them.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? by CvD (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:51PM
    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? by YrWrstNtmr (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:00PM
    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? by Kris_J (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:10PM
    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? by Vladimir Kornea (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @07:08AM
    • Re:isn't this basically a proxy? by agusus (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:50PM
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  • Great for dial up users (Score:3, Interesting)

    by binaryspiral (784263) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:17PM (#12436587)
    This is great news for dialup users that are being charged for this service through their own ISP.

  • Is this like... (Score:5, Informative)

    by cs02rm0 (654673) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:17PM (#12436588)
    ...a proxy which just compressed stuff on the server and then decompresses it on the client?

    Oh... yes.

    Google Web Accelerator uses various strategies to make your web pages load faster, including:

    * Sending your page requests through Google machines dedicated to handling Google Web Accelerator traffic.
    * Storing copies of frequently looked at pages to make them quickly accessible.
    * Downloading only the updates if a web page has changed slightly since you last viewed it.
    * Prefetching certain pages onto your computer in advance.
    * Managing your Internet connection to reduce delays.
    * Compressing data before sending it to your computer.
  • Hm... by Ninwa (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:17PM
    • Re:Hm... by Vann_v2 (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:19PM
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    • Re:Hm... by airjrdn (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:34PM
  • What does Google gain from this? by Spy Hunter (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:17PM
  • It works with Firefox! by EvilStein (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:18PM
  • Now I can get this message: " Nothing for you to see here. Please move along." - way faster! Thank you Google!
  • Major privacy concerns by chrispyman (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:18PM
  • by allism (457899) <alice,harrison&gmail,com> on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:18PM (#12436605)
    (Last Journal: Thursday April 05 2007, @09:47PM)
    At least they were decent enough to point out that you need to READ their Privacy Policy:
    • Google Web Accelerator sends requests for web pages, except for secure web pages (HTTPS), to Google, which logs these requests. Some web pages may embed personal information in these page requests.
    • Google receives and temporarily caches cookie data that your computer sends with webpage requests in order to improve performance.
    • In order to speed up delivery of content, Google Web Accelerator may retrieve webpage content that you did not request, and store it in your Google Web Accelerator cache.

    To learn more, read our Google Web Accelerator Privacy Policy (http://webaccelerator.google.com/privacy [google.com]).

    Does anyone know if the accelerator gives you the option to omit certain webpages from your accelerating experience, or is this going to turn into a huge information mine? (Not that the two are exclusive, there are going to be users who just blindly send anything through the accelerator regardless).
  • So let me get this straight ... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Draoi (99421) * <<moc.cam> <ta> <thcoiard>> on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:18PM (#12436607)
    (Last Journal: Tuesday January 02 2007, @12:45PM)
    ... Google will log every URL you visit via their proxy logs. They'll ultimately forward on the requested page with their own AdWords and possibly mask other sites' adverts. Not sure if I like that ..
  • internet filters by jaxle (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:18PM
  • Cool! by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:18PM
    • Re:Cool! by Sox2 (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:27PM
      • Re:Cool! by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:33PM
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  • Squeezable Software by Doc Ruby (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:19PM
  • Anonymizer? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by alewar (784204) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:19PM (#12436612)
    Do they provide also an anonymizer service with this accelerator/proxy??
  • Just what I need... by CyberZCat (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:19PM
  • by Liquidrage (640463) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:19PM (#12436616)
    what are they going to do with it?

    Not that I'm anti-google. But it's amazing all the things they've gotten themselves into. Now they're apparently going to cache (pieces of) the internet for us.

    Though this might finally be a usefull tool to get around the /. effect.
  • Privacy issue by TheKubrix (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:19PM
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  • no automated queries by mcguyver (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:19PM
  • and, okay... a technical question by yagu (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:20PM
  • Once again Google forgets us. by MrP- (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:21PM
  • No difference here by grahamsz (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:21PM
  • Is this part of the Big Brother (TM) Google pack? by WillAffleckUW (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:21PM
  • Only for windows by a3217055 (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:21PM
  • Google FAQ's don't answer the questions by killa62 (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:23PM
  • Oh, now this sounds juuust perfect by LNO (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:23PM
  • Where is the Mac version for Firefox/Safari? by r0d3nt (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:24PM
  • No thanks! (Score:5, Informative)

    by sanermind (512885) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:25PM (#12436679)

    Google reserves the right to modify these Terms and Conditions from time to time in its sole discretion, without notice or liability to you. You agree to be bound by these Terms and Conditions, as modified.
    • Re:No thanks! by Koiu Lpoi (Score:3) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:12PM
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    • Re:No thanks! by vhogemann (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @05:17AM
    • Re:No thanks! by autophile (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @10:32AM
    • Re:No thanks! by WhatAmIDoingHere (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:17PM
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  • ha! by roadrunnerro (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:25PM
  • Oh the irony by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:25PM
    • Re:Oh the irony by LiquidCoooled (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:05PM
      • Re:Oh the irony by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:12PM
  • They Want Usage Information. Good Business Step by osewa77 (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:25PM
  • Google Ads show up faster! by binaryspiral (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:26PM
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  • Soon, google will be an AD MACHINE!@ EULA by Eric(b0mb)Dennis (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:26PM
  • Well my results are in by MerlynEmrys67 (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:27PM
  • Restrictions by Bifurcati (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:28PM
  • SLOWER! by SirDrinksAlot (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:31PM
  • Its an odd thing... by riprjak (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:33PM
  • prefetch denial of service by clinko (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:33PM
  • Why? by Sairret (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:33PM
  • I'm sorry, Google by Eric(b0mb)Dennis (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:34PM
  • Sounds interesting.... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by FS1 (636716) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:34PM (#12436770)
    I think that a word of caution is needed here. Now Google, in it's current state, seems to defy the "laws of business." I for one hope that it remains an honest company that continues producing software that is innovative and desired. People trust Google way more than any other company in recent memory. Google has access now, through their software, to every file, search, website you visit, password, personal detail, and photo you have (assuming you use all their software).

    Am I the only one a little shocked at this? What's to stop another company from swooping in and buying Google with all your assorted information? Or, to stop Google itself from using this information in a way that most people wouldn't want them to?

    Obligatory Murphy's Law derivative quote: "If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something."
  • A legitimate Internet Accelerator by _RidG_ (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:34PM
  • Web stats for hosts will not be accurate by texas neuron (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:35PM
  • out of date cache? by weighn (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:36PM
  • bandwidth? by silicongodcom (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:38PM
  • Imagine the repercussion by ghingy (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:41PM
  • no linux by protomala (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:43PM
  • dial-up or metered gprs/umts alternative by ironhide (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:45PM
  • WOAH by gsibble (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:46PM
  • The AOL and NetZero web accelerators by alphakappa (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:49PM
  • A more pertinent question - how much RAM's it use? by mbourgon (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:49PM
  • My hypothesis is... by Tamerlan (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:49PM
  • This would be scarier if ... by Skapare (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:50PM
  • Privoxy is the best web accelerator by xwin (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:51PM
  • I for one Welcome my new Google overlords by MagikSlinger (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:54PM
  • Ugh no Linux version? by PatrickJ_M (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:55PM
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  • Does it anonymize requests? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Mustang Matt (133426) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:56PM (#12436952)
    Effectively, if it's a proxy, couldn't it be used to anonymously access the web?

    Not that google doesn't keep logs to let law enforcement see who you are, but in theory, the logs of the sites visited would see google unless they explicitly told them you're ip correct?
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  • ...and everything to do with decreasing loads/speeding up Google sites. After using it for several minutes, I noticed that any froogle/googlegroups/google search I do has marked time savings- more than any other sites I found (except CNN front page, which is also much faster and well suited for this kind of thing...)

    Basically, running the web accelerator allows google to have compressed copies of all their pre-generated search pages and use the proprietary webaccelerator internals to give them a strategic advantage over web publishers/services/searches- Imagine the benefits this could have on their internal server load if adopted by 90% of web suers...

    In typical Google fashion, a very clever move!
  • Hmmm... by whoami-ky (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:58PM
  • Alright! I saved 0.1 seconds! by ianbnet (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:00PM
  • Google (proxy)hosting?? by siliconeyes (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:04PM
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  • I'm not going to install this thing (Score:3, Interesting)

    by microbee (682094) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:09PM (#12437068)
    Not just because of technical reasons (it might reduce the latency but it incurs more traffic and load on the machine and the Internet), but I am starting to feel uncomfortable of how aggressive Google has been trying to be. "Do no evil"? I hear the similar thing when Larry started to give away Bitkeeper to Open Source developers. Not that I say Larry is evil, but a company is a company. I cannot trust them without limits.
  • Builds Database better by kgruscho (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:13PM
  • I'm oficially freaked. by fleppir (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:15PM
  • How is this better... by bpuli (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:16PM
  • PageRank Implications by pseinstein (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:18PM
  • TrustRank by Dialithis (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:19PM
  • Another anonymizer question.. by SmokeyMirror (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:21PM
  • Interesting. But wise? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Quixote (154172) * on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:21PM (#12437165)
    (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday April 16 2003, @07:07AM)
    Let's assume that Joe Schmoe installs the "web accelerator". Next he downloads child porn. Who's responsible for this? Can he sue Google, claiming they "put it there" ?

    Msr. Francois in France browses a Nazi site and Google happily provides the content to him via the handy web accelerator. Can the French go after Google now? (as if they're not already).

    Chinese government demands that Google strip out offensive content and replace any references to Li Hongzhi [google.com] with "<insert insult here>". Will Google comply? Has such a demand been made before [detnews.com] ?

    Plus, what about copyrights and such? Will Google be held liable for pushing out outdated pages? How will the servers (from where Google is grabbing pages) get their statistics? And since Google will be sort-of screen-scraping, why does Google object to it themselves?

    Just some questions that come to mind.

  • a new measure against search spam? by drew (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:22PM
  • HOSTS file is now useless... by CypherXero (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:25PM
  • Orkut accelerator? by Warlock48 (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:25PM
  • seems to work by mtupker (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:25PM
  • Installed: Odd behavior. by guidryp (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:26PM
  • Free Advertising for Google by JonStewart (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:28PM
  • No complexty wanted for sake of security by Sithgunner (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:32PM
  • Well, thank goodness. (Score:4, Funny)

    by DaveJay (133437) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:34PM (#12437243)
    Thank goodness. One of my biggest computer problems is the slowness of web pages loading. I remember back when I had a modem, and pages loaded like lightning because the Internets were not very crowded yet. Now that everyone and their brother has the broadbands on their machines, it's too crowded. I hate waiting in line. Hooray for google!
  • Browsing habits by kbahey (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:46PM
  • The new Adwords? by grolschie (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:49PM
  • Proxy by DyslexicLegume (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:49PM
  • Works under linux! (Score:4, Informative)

    by Rayban (13436) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @07:57PM (#12437377)
    (http://www.grack.com/)
    Works with Wine:

    1) Install on a Windows box
    2) Copy Program Files\Google\Web Accelerator files to linux box
    3) "wine GoogleWebAccWarder.exe &"
    4) Set your browser proxy to "localhost" port 9100
    5) Surf with speed

    If it fails, check your windows\temp directory for the google logs...

    Note - this comment posted with Google Web Accelerator. :)
  • Lets Me Get Around Stupid DRM Restrictions by wynand1004 (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:00PM
  • Summary by zogger (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:11PM
  • Censorship by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:13PM
  • abuse ? by thanew (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:15PM
  • It Hosed my Firefox 1.0.3 install (Score:4, Interesting)

    by bogie (31020) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:17PM (#12437508)
    (Last Journal: Tuesday October 29 2002, @10:47AM)
    Right now I'm posting from IE and trying to figure out what it screwed up.

    Firefox wouldn't launch after install. After rebooting I see this http://img115.echo.cx/img115/6282/firefoxhosed5wg. jpg [img115.echo.cx] bookmarks, the address bar, and my personal toolbar links are gone.

    Not exactly what I expect from Google. Although I'm sure its working fine for others I have a plain jane install that gives me no grief. It did work on IE btw, but it totally screwed up Firefox. Uninstalling did NOT fix the problem.
  • yeah by deafff (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:21PM
  • Of course it's for gathering data. by Bongo Bill (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:21PM
  • Request on mouse over? by Kris_J (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:21PM
  • Adblock? by Fish Heads (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:22PM
  • Neuter GWA in FireFox and IE and make it optional by melios (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:23PM
  • What if I already have a proxy setting? by hoyty (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:28PM
  • Darn, installed it on the wrong PC by Kris_J (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:36PM
  • Im using it now, no issues yet by mybase.load(Chaz) (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:39PM
  • will the technology work? by walterbyrd (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:46PM
  • IT STORES A HUGE HISTORY CACHE ON YOUR HD!!!! by mybase.load(Chaz) (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:50PM
  • what if google = echelon? by VoiceOfRaisin (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:52PM
  • GWA Easter Egg(s)! by mrklin (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @08:58PM
  • works by kcbernfeld (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:04PM
  • Google == Linux, yet no Linux Client?!? by TheCeltic (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:05PM
  • What if? by feronti (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:05PM
  • Continuous trafic by se7en11 (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:07PM
  • Prefetch can be dangerous by Presto_slashdot (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:19PM
  • My short try of it.. by nolife (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:23PM
  • free proxy? by twohorse (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:32PM
  • slashdot effect by Danathar (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:36PM
  • Web banking. by ElAurian (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:50PM
  • Somebody needs to tell them... by amrittuladhar (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @09:56PM
  • I don't own a tin foil hat... but... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Eric_Cartman_South_P (594330) on Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:03PM (#12438127)
    Many people will use many, if not all, of Googles services. That means one single company can aggregate the data of a persons:

    Website visits
    Emails
    Web Searches
    Photos
    Hard Disk Drive contents
    Hard Disk Drive searches ...and now everything about every page they visit, cookies and all, since they are acting as a proxy!

    Just the aggregation of this data on people who use all of their services could make their current income seam like pennies. This is the type of think that governments like a lot, not just large corporations. I know they have a "don't be evil" pholosophy (their words) but shit, even Skynet was nice at one point.
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  • Interesting... by DaPhoenix (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:09PM
  • TrustRank related? by chrima (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:36PM
  • Hell, let's just have GoogleNet by birge (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:44PM
  • OT: Posting in order to get it recorded: May 16 by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @10:55PM
  • Usable in China? by kristan (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @11:13PM
  • YESS! FASTER INTERNET!! GOOGLE PWN----oh. by zoogies (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @11:19PM
  • Genius by adolfojp (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @11:54PM
  • difference by etzel (Score:1) Wednesday May 04 2005, @11:56PM
  • Possible MAJOR Problem - not Privacy by nigelthellama (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @12:24AM
  • Speed up your browser without the help of Google.. by b3rs3rk3r (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @12:32AM
  • And what we have next... by Semyazza (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @12:44AM
  • Seems to Really Help Database Driven Sites by monkeyman_67156 (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @12:45AM
  • So Now by ArchAngel21x (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @12:59AM
  • Why does it need a plug-in? by gsasha (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @02:23AM
  • It should improve their search results by LadyLucky (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @02:34AM
  • This can turn into a p2p CDN by Diomidis Spinellis (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @02:37AM
  • Mouseover activation by Mardak (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @02:51AM
  • SPOC - Single Point Of Control by flibberdi (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @03:00AM
  • by HD Webdev (247266) on Thursday May 05 2005, @03:11AM (#12439358)
    (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday May 05 2005, @03:31AM)
    It's pretty slick.

    Anti-Advertisement software gets bypassed and the ads I haven't seen for years are now displayed for my 'enjoyment'.

    Thanks, but no thanks. I'm off to uninstall this POS.
  • No reason to be worried by xtracto (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @03:27AM
  • Jeez by Lord Kano (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @03:32AM
  • Prefetching dangerous? by nmg196 (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @03:58AM
  • scary by CoolCat (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @04:06AM
  • Could be improved alot by Tarqwak (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @04:18AM
  • It's free but paid services are better by Dexter.M (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @05:14AM
  • This service shouldn't need to exist by baadger (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @06:15AM
  • Free Speech by There is no cake (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @06:25AM
  • Transparent cascading caching proxy accelorator? by Halvard (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @06:34AM
  • onspeed by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @07:00AM
  • Spammer Reply by TheKnave (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @07:00AM
  • by gorbachev (512743) on Thursday May 05 2005, @07:12AM (#12440089)
    (http://slashdot.org/)
    They have a question about a design of a system like this in their tech interview questions arsenal.

    In the interview I was in the question was framed to address the problem of serving Google content to developing countries and other places with poor network connectivity. I wonder, if the purpose of the web accelerator is to make Google more accessible in those kind of environments than their (graphics-heavy) competitors.
  • Why not squid? by ajs318 (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @07:19AM
  • issues with accelerator & optimized firefox by Greenrider (Score:2) Thursday May 05 2005, @08:07AM
  • Re : Google Web Accelerator by geoff43230 (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @08:22AM
  • Interferes with ActiveX by unk1911 (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @08:48AM
  • Proxy of Proxy by Spez (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @09:17AM
  • Affecting Firefox RSS extension..... by bossj52 (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @09:41AM
  • GWA + /.RSS == WTF???? by Dexter.M (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @10:21AM
  • Big problems over at Something Awful by Tar Baby Says Nothin (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @02:02PM
  • Is it worth it? by whitehatlurker (Score:1) Thursday May 05 2005, @03:28PM
  • Maybe Its Useful by Brother Grifter (Score:1) Thursday May 12 2005, @06:35PM
  • Re:This is useless... by Blakflag (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:25PM
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  • Re:Someone explain? by SSalvatore (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:26PM
  • Re:Someone explain? by Spy der Mann (Score:2) Wednesday May 04 2005, @06:29PM
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