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Yahoo! Acquires Oddpost

Posted by timothy on Tue Jul 13, 2004 08:42 PM
from the blame-gmail dept.
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weiyuent writes "We all know the arrival of Gmail has initiated a new round of competition amongst the major webmail providers. Well, Yahoo! has acquired Oddpost and will be integrating Oddpost's amazing interface to strengthen its offerings. One might wonder though how to reconcile Oddpost's MSIE requirement with Yahoo!'s (thus far) cross-platform approach. Oh well, at least it will likely put an end to Oddpost's exasperating attempt to be cute in their communication."
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  • Client-side 2GB goodness (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:46PM (#9692980)
    An IE-only interface and an integrated news client (like the one included with my current provider's [mailsnare.net] webmail) when all I really want is for Yahoo to give me IMAP. I'll even pay for it, as I do with my current provider. I would switch to have Yahoo's nice interface.

    POP3 is soooo 1990's.

  • Not cross platform (Score:5, Informative)

    by beforewisdom (729725) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:46PM (#9692984)
    One might wonder though how to reconcile Oddpost's MSIE requirement with Yahoo!'s (thus far) cross-platform approach.
    It is not cross platform. They do not support the ical standard or any non-windows calendar clients. ( yes, I sent them a polite suggestion )

    • Re:Not cross platform (Score:5, Informative)

      by lessthanjakejohn (766177) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:48PM (#9692996)
      Launchcast does not work in Firefox on windows either.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Not cross platform by LostCluster (Score:3) Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:49PM
    • Re:Not cross platform by batkiwi (Score:3) Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:55PM

    • Re:Not cross platform (Score:5, Informative)

      by bwy (726112) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:55PM (#9693055)
      Cross platform? Hell, their home page is not even cross-browser apparently.

      This page [oddpost.com] seems to not scroll in Mozilla 1.5 even if all the content can't be shown in the browser window because of size. You know you're in trouble when they fuck up their main marketing page.
      [ Parent ]

      • Re:Not cross platform (Score:5, Interesting)

        by bigbadwlf (304883) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:23PM (#9693217)
        Using Firefox 0.9.2 on Windows, the page lacks a scrollbar but it does scroll with the mouse wheel.
        Strange.
        [ Parent ]
        • Re:Not cross platform by Kris_J (Score:2) Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:40PM

        • Re:Not cross platform (Score:5, Informative)

          by sasha328 (203458) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:34PM (#9693604)
          (http://www.geodo.com.au/)
          Mouse wheel works, but the up/down arrow keys don't work.

          The source has the following interesting snippet:
          /*var isIE55upForPC = ( ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE" ) != -1 )
          && ( ua.indexOf( "Windows" ) != -1 )
          && ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE 5.0" ) == -1 )
          && ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE 4" ) == -1 )
          && ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE 3" ) == -1 )
          && ( ua.indexOf( "MSIE 2" ) == -1 )
          && ( ua.indexOf( "Opera" ) == -1 ) );*/

          var isIE55upForPC = false; // for purposes of disabling signup
          Notice the "disabling signup" comment for non-IE or Opera browsers.
          I do not use Yahoo, but hope they change this silliness.
          [ Parent ]

        • Very strange (Score:4, Interesting)

          by jesterzog (189797) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:39PM (#9693630)
          (http://www.windy.gen.nz/ | Last Journal: Wednesday January 05 2005, @03:37PM)

          I'm using Firefox 0.8 with the RadialContext extension. That's the pie menu replacement for the right-click context menu.

          If I scroll down the page with the mouse-wheel and right click, the pie menu appears at the top of the page. I have to scroll all the way back up in order to use it. ie. The context menu placement is for some reason confusing window-relative placement with page-relative placement.

          It's possible that this is a bug in RadialContext, although this page with its odd combination of presentation, scripting and style attributes is the first place where I've ever seen it happen.

          [ Parent ]
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      • Re:Not cross platform by matth (Score:2) Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:06PM
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    • Re:Not cross platform by line.at.infinity (Score:2) Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:19PM
    • Re:Not cross platform by Skim123 (Score:3) Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:55PM

  • Google is good at what it does: searching and newsgroups with a few other potentially useful things.

    Yahoo is good at what it does: news, yellow pages, maps, tv listings, movie listings, etc.

    I use yahoo primarily for 'book' information, and google as a search engine.

  • what's the cost? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:48PM (#9693000)
    oddpost is currently a subscription service if i read correctly. will yahoo change all those subscriber accounts into free ones paid by advertising revenue?

  • Hotmail (Score:4, Funny)

    by powerpuffgirls (758362) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:48PM (#9693003)
    Based on Microsoft's recently move to compete in search engine, I wonder why it doesn't do more in Hotmail? Does it think it has secured enough user base to ignore new comers?

    Oh by the way, if Google has gmail, MS introduce hmail, Apple gives you imail, Sun introduces jmail... :)

  • Easy to remedy... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by bergeron76 (176351) * on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:49PM (#9693006)
    One might wonder though how to reconcile Oddpost's MSIE requirement with Yahoo!'s (thus far) cross-platform approach.

    This is easy to remedy: Microsoft acquires Yahoo!

    MSFT could kill 3 birds with one stone - they could force all existing Yahoo! Mail users to use IE, they would gain a significant market share in the search engine market (against Google), and they'd get Oddpost as a bonus (not that Oddpost is terribly exciting).

  • So that's what an amazing interface is? (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:51PM (#9693022)
    Looks a heck of a lot like Outlook to me. I didn't know Slashdot posters were in a habit of flattering Microsoft developers.

  • Er... huh? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Senjutsu (614542) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:52PM (#9693034)
    I took a look at the link to Oddpost, but I'm having trouble seeing what exactly is so amazing about their e-mail interface. It looks like a low rent outlook clone.

    Anyone want to take a stab at explaining to me why Oddpost is so amazing?

  • Oddpost Features (Score:5, Interesting)

    by neil.pearce (53830) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:53PM (#9693039)
    (http://www.neilpearce.com/)
    Odpost was pretty cool, a recap of its highlights...
    1) not a lick of advertising - Not any more
    2) accessible via POP & IMAP - Not any more
    3) send & receive large attachments - Not any more
    4) staggeringly effective spam filtering - Not any more
    5) Insert your favourite feature here - Not any more

    • Re:Oddpost Features (Score:5, Informative)

      by LostCluster (625375) * on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:00PM (#9693081)
      We don't know if Yahoo's going to muck up Oddpost's killer features by trying to merge it into Yahoo... or if this is going to be a premium service that they're going to try to upsell their freeloaders into, at which point it may be allowed to run as-is with a much higher userbase and budget.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Oddpost Features by weiyuent (Score:2) Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:56PM

  • And in case other people want to write yahoo (Score:5, Interesting)

    by beforewisdom (729725) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:56PM (#9693058)
    here is a well hidden but useful feedback link:

    http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/my/cgi_feedback

    Yahoo does listen to suggestions, it just takes many iterations and time.

  • Photo management is another one (Score:5, Informative)

    by prostoalex (308614) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:56PM (#9693059)
    (Last Journal: Monday October 23 2006, @12:44PM)
    Google bought a photo management firm today [com.com], meanwhile Yahoo! Photos [yahoo.com] changed its disk space restrictions to unlimited quite a while ago.

    • Re:Photo management is another one (Score:4, Informative)

      by LiquidCoooled (634315) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:23PM (#9693220)
      Speaking of benefits,

      Any existing Oddpost subscribers have a special bonus:

      Until then, all Oddpost subscriptions will be extended, free of charge. After the migration, you'll get an additional free year of premium Yahoo! Mail service including two gigs of storage, SpamGuard Plus, advanced virus protection and lots of other goodies.

      Thats from the OddPost announcement [oddpost.com]to subscribers page.

      I think thats quite a sweetener. gMail certainly has rocked the boat, and competition is good.

      [ Parent ]

  • Well... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by XeRXeS-TCN (788834) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:58PM (#9693074)

    Hardly surprising that Yahoo have done something like this really... after all, the "quick and easy" way of trying to compete with GMail when you have that much money, is obviously to just find something similar and buy it ;P

    I do wonder about the suggestion that Yahoo is in any way cross-platform though. Especially considering the recent protocol change (reported on Slashdot) to lock out third party messenger clients like Trillian and Gaim. They are yet another proprietary company, so they'll design their system to run as *they* like, and if you don't want to adhere to it, tough.

    In saying that though, Oddpost has only *just* been acquired, and it says on their page that they are only starting to develop the merge between their service and Yahoo! Mail, so there is more than ample opportunity to ensure all browser compatibility before the main roll out. Whether they do or not remains to be seen, but I would hope they would take the recent announcements about the insecurity of IE, and the recent 1% loss in market share into account, and ensure that their service will be more universally accessible than it's current incarnation.

    • Re:Well... by Monkelectric (Score:2) Wednesday July 14 2004, @02:52AM
      • Re:Well... by swv3752 (Score:2) Wednesday July 14 2004, @09:19AM
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  • FYI....1 gig of storage (Score:2)

    by beforewisdom (729725) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @08:59PM (#9693079)
    Is also now available on yahoo.

    Which is great, I can now go weeks at a time before emptying out the email account I use for google groups( the networking people at my job don't even know what usenet is, let alone how to set up a usenet server ).

    Steve
  • I think most people have thusfar been impressed by the gmail GUI (I have, even though I've submitted a number of suggestions to Google for how to make it better)...

    If Yahoo begins to offer a richer client experience for email users, then it won't be long before many more people start wanting to use both sites with a variety of browsers, and soon both IE and Mozilla (this is /. so I'll mention Opera as well) will have better standards compliance as a consequence. Note how it's mostly the less-used and more esoteric areas of standard compliance where (today) one finds most of the inconsistencies...

  • Interface (Score:1)

    by stevemm81 (203868) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:04PM (#9693112)
    (http://www.cashcrate.com/199261)
    Yeah, this interface looks just like Outlook or a million other email clients, for that matter. I don't really see why Yahoo needs to acquire this company to get the rights to use this kind of standard design. It's a little unusual for webmail, but it's certainly nothing original.
  • ...the msdn interface. In fact, I'd bet it is the same thing. There is an ie behavior called treeview.htc that creates a tree from transforming XML. I used it last year at an ie only shop to create an interface. It is no longer supported by Microsoft, but it's pretty easy to work with the source. I can't believe Yahoo didn't have developers that could create an interface like that one. It's not that hard if you use that behavior. But it is totally incompatible with computers for people that use good operating systems/browsers. I'm writing to you from a nice new PowerBook running OSX/Safari :) (and my little sony srx-99p runs Fedora Core 2/Mozilla)

    Matt - Didn't want to wait to sign on

  • hmmm.... (Score:1)

    by Chuck Bucket (142633) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:07PM (#9693138)
    (http://pitchforkmedia.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday March 23 2004, @09:08PM)
    strange that Yahoo! did this...it's odd even.

    CB
    • Re:hmmm.... by LMCBoy (Score:1) Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:08PM

  • SBC Yahoo! DSL (Score:2, Insightful)

    by mailman-zero (730254) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:13PM (#9693166)
    (http://walkingtowel.org/)
    One might wonder though how to reconcile Oddpost's MSIE requirement with Yahoo!'s (thus far) cross-platform approach.
    I happen to live in very small location where Cox Cable Internet Service is not available and my only options are Adelphia *shudder* and SBC. SBC just happens to use Yahoo! for all of their email accounts.

    Until now Linux has never been supported with the service per se, but it has always worked well even though they officially use a proprietary PPPoE connection. I just signed up for another year's contract and I am going to be quite upset if I have to use WINE or VMWare just to change my prefs. We'll just cross our fingers that the POP3 access will still be left intact.

    "The truth is where the sculptor's chisel chipped away the lye" --They Might Be Giants

  • doesn't that beat all (Score:1)

    by AgentGray (200299) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:13PM (#9693167)
    (http://slashdot.org/)
    In the span of one week. I get 2 gigs of space with yahoo (I pay), a gmail invite, and this happens.

    The irony is that I've had the yahoo for years and I'm forwarding everything to my gmail account (I at least have to try it). Plus, I'm due for renewal at yahoo in about two weeks.

    Part of me says keep the yahoo...I've had it longer. Of course, the labeling and searching with gmail is nice.

    Maybe I'll keep both and keep passing the yahoo over to gmail.

  • Oddpost is not just an Outlook clone (Score:2, Informative)

    by asdren (35537) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:14PM (#9693170)
    the cool thing about Oddpost was that it was a central location for all your emails and a news feed aggregator. what I didn't like was the IE-only requirement.
  • But lets face it. The web browser is a really crappy place to work. RSS is a really interesting use of a hybrid web / rich client technology and that's interesting. Web Services are cool, but nearly unusable in their complexity if you go beyond time & temperature toys -- but the IDEA is right. Anyway, GMAIL is less impressive to this of us wierdo's who got hooked on NOTES years ago (yes, I know its bizzare to code for and feels weird if you're not used to it -- but so does PHP and PYTHON -- but its amazingly cool if you know how to make it do its thing). If Yahoo & Google fight it out for best UI bragging rights, we'll see innovation. Both companies are good at that.

  • Oddpost Creators Mentality... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:15PM (#9693178)
    Check the Oddpost tech logs [weblogs.com] for proof of Microsoft rebustness...

    Why doesn't oddpost work with anything other than Internet Explorer?
    I don't get it. I can see how it's annoying if you can't use something you've heard is cool. But it's not evil. I'm all for cross-platformness, but I also don't see the harm if someone wants to take advantage of some kick-ass functionality that exists in IE5W and no where else

    What was the cause of that service problem?
    IE no longer rapidly leaks memIE no longer rapidly leaks memory when sending message after message after message. Or at least leaks much less.ory when sending message after message after message. Or at least leaks much less.

    And that other service problem?
    Yesterday we resolved the MyDoom-related problems with account login and outgoing mail

    And that other service problem?
    After many long hours of toil, we've modified our systems to deal with the surge in email traffic caused by the MyDoom virus.

    Say again?
    Yikes, looks like we spoke too soon. We're still dealing with an onslaught of mail from the MyDoom virus. We'll continue to post updates here.

    How your IIS servers doing?
    Oddpost's performance degraded steadily over the month of November. This was primarily due to a memory leak on our IIS? servers

    MS loving twats...

  • Making it cross-platform (Score:4, Informative)

    by kindofblue (308225) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:17PM (#9693189)
    Yahoo/Oddpost could try to make it work on Mozilla/Firefox, etc. but I think that it requires some particular extensions built into IE 5+, to do stuff relating to SOAP and drag/drop, I think. At a minimum, some mechanism is required to talk to the server to avoid doing full web page refreshes.

    In other words, porting it is not simply a matter of porting to a different dialect of javascript, CSS, and the DOM.

    Therefore, Mozilla/Firefox, should have an extension and plugin that provides the same functionality required by Oddpost. Afterall, Mozilla users have already gone through the trouble of installing a foreign browser, so installing some good extensions is no big deal. Since Yahoo is very widely used, these nonstandard extensions would be very widely applicable.

    The required functionality could probably be done using a java applet running invisibly in the browser whose sole purpose is to communicate with the mail servers. But this requires launching the java VM which is heavy. That's why a lightweight extension that mimics the needed IE 5+ functionality might be preferable.

    • Re:Making it cross-platform (Score:4, Interesting)

      by BrerBear (8338) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:40PM (#9693317)
      Yahoo/Oddpost could try to make it work on Mozilla/Firefox, etc. but I think that it requires some particular extensions built into IE 5+, to do stuff relating to SOAP and drag/drop, I think. At a minimum, some mechanism is required to talk to the server to avoid doing full web page refreshes.

      I think you're projecting here. Mozilla / Firefox supports the same XMLHttpRequest functionality that IE does for avoiding full refreshes. There isn't anything really unique to what Oddpost is doing that couldn't be replicated for Moz/IE.

      Poor architectural decisions like this were some of the rejection points when Oddpost tried to sell itself to the company I work for a while back. I guess Yahoo is less discriminating.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Making it cross-platform by spyrral (Score:2) Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:31PM

  • Yahoo aquires Slashdot (Score:2)

    by msheppard (150231) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:48PM (#9693353)
    (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday August 07 2003, @10:31AM)
    In this never ending Saga, can even SLASHDOT remain free of this coporate blood bath?

    M@

  • the javascript/dhtml interface debate (Score:2, Interesting)

    by nzgeek (232346) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:55PM (#9693395)
    (http://www.gadgetophile.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:14PM)
    I see a couple of interesting things in this whole Yahoo/Oddpost/GMail webmail [cent-com.com] thing:
    • Will MS join the bandwagon and jazz up Hotmail (or provide a premium service) that does all the javascript funkiness (drag-n-drop, context menus etc)? They've already done this for exchange web access. If so, is that not kinda shooting desktop Outlook in the foot? Will they fall behind again on this New Thing due to their dekstop blinkers?
    • Why do the funky interface thing anyway? A website is a website, and a lot more people are comfortable with the webforms approach to email, because it is a fairly engrained standard (e.g. their online banking is webforms based). Perhaps everyone is being led by the nose by GMail? Never! Fastmail is just one example of thousands of slick webforms-based webmails
    • Besides, why not just use IMAP into your rich [mozilla.org] client [microsoft.com] of choice [eudora.com].
    As a long-time Oddpost user, I have to say I was having qualms about Oddpost a couple of months ago. I've been trying to get off the IE bandwagon, and my questions to their (normally very responsive) support staff about Mozilla/Firefox support seemed to fall on deaf ears. I guess they were too busy doing the deal.

  • I perfer fastmail.fm (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:01PM (#9693426)
    fastmail.fm is fast(no ads, except email tag lines), has lots of features (imap, advanced searching) and has worked in any browser I've tried (dillo, lynx, links). No need for javascript, no need for cookies and it still manages to work perfectly every time.

    And for just 15 USD one time, you can have POP access and get rid of the tag lines.

  • Outlook ripoff!? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by nzgeek (232346) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:04PM (#9693444)
    (http://www.gadgetophile.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:14PM)

    As this dude [corante.com] says: If Oddpost is a clone of Outlook, how fast will Microsoft sue?

    I mean it's pretty obvious that they're riding Outlook's popularity. Lifted straight from Oddpost's FAQ (emphasis mine): Oddpost is a web-based email and news aggregation application that combines the rich, responsive interface of a desktop program like Outlook with the available-from-anywhere convenience of a web mail service like Hotmail.

    Seriously, if Oddpost is trying to do Outlook in the browser (errrm Exchange Web Access anyone?), and they were flying under Microsoft's radar before, then this deal will surely make Microsoft take a lot more notice.

    [Disclaimer]I'm not saying that this is a Good Thing, just that MS might see it as an easy option to silence a competitor.
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  • I don't see it as too amazing - I expect it took a lot of work to clone the Outlook interface using only web tools, but I don't think many people are that tied into the Outlook 'look'. If people want an email client, they can use one, but this, while being an interesting proof of concept, just looks stuffy to me, compared to the Gmail interface.

    The Gmail interface is prettier, colourful and (as far as I know) is cross-browser compatible - people are just going to see this as a stuffy, broken (non-IE-incompatibility is becoming more of an issue with the amount of people switching over following the IE/IIS panic - it's not much, but it's there) and I don't think too many people craving that IE-app look in their webmail clients.

    I used to have a Yahoo! Mail account and the interface was nice - it had a few annoyances but it looked good, worked almost as good and didn't have that insipid Microsoft grey (that even MS themselves are trying to get rid of as much as they can) that this interface has.

    Interesting proof-of-concept, but I'm a graphics guy, I like things to look good - It doesn't interest me how much like a Windows application they can get a webpage to be - could be very good if they made it look a little less stuffy, but then wouldn't it just be another webmail client? As far as I can see the only thing that makes this 'Amazing' is the fact it looks like Outlook.

    More 'interesting' than 'amazing', in my book.

  • What? (Score:1)

    by stonecypher (118140) * <johnisaheadcase@ y a h o o . c om> on Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:33PM (#9693595)
    (http://sc.tri-bit.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday July 08, @02:36AM)
    How is that an amazing interface? It's an imitation of a lackluster mid-nineties email client in HTML which doesn't even manage to be portable.

    That interface could be hacked together by any competant web scripter in a couple of hours.

    What am I missing?

  • Begun again, These Browser Wars (Score:5, Interesting)

    by easyfrag (210329) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @10:34PM (#9693598)
    Over the past few months we have witnessed something remarkable: Browsers are "hot" again. Look at what's come down the pipes: Gmail, a possible plan for WHAT-WG may eventually turn out to be HTML 5.0, the demo of Apple's Dashboard technology, and now today's purchases by Yahoo and Google.

    Remember a few years ago how the (cross-platform) web browser was going to make the Windows desktop obsolete? We all know how that turned out, Microsoft leveraged its "advantage" in the desktop world to the browser market. But I think MS made a critical mistake in freezing development of IE and waiting for Avalon. We are starting to see some real slick web-based apps that are as useful as local applications. I've seen people here complaining that Oddpost is just a ripoff of Outlook, of course it is, but that's missing the point. What's important is that you can now get a desktop-like experience in the browser that wasn't possible a couple of years ago.

  • amazing interface? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by insomnyuk (467714) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @11:37PM (#9693990)
    (http://www.audendi.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday June 23 2004, @09:32AM)
    Why does oddpost's interface look like my old POP3 client?

    Or Outlook 97. Yahoo's interface is a little cartoonish and could use some help with color contrasts (it's tougher to read on certain crappy LCD monitors), but I still prefer it to what screenshots I've seen from Oddpost.

  • Yahoo's Blank Pages (Score:1)

    by bananahammock (595781) on Wednesday July 14 2004, @01:11AM (#9694323)
    Since yahoo revamped their email service to 100MB, I constantly bring up blank pages when I hit "Inbox", "Check Mail" or simply using the back function. Anyone else experiencing a few minor glitches?
  • I go to gmail...

    period.

    GJC

  • Vote for your most wanted Gmail features! (Score:2)

    by scrm (185355) on Wednesday July 14 2004, @07:51AM (#9695671)
    (http://scandal.org/)
    Existing Gmail users: Get over to this site [grytoyr.net] and vote for the Gmail features that you want to see! The more votes the better, and the GMail team might actually be listening to it.

    (Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with the site, I just want to make sure Gmail trounces Yahoo features-wise.)

  • how much is the deal? (Score:1)

    by timts (766509) on Wednesday July 14 2004, @09:20AM (#9696514)
    (Last Journal: Monday June 27 2005, @10:09AM)
    I heard there are only two developers from oddpost and I wonder how much yahoo! paid for it, personally, I doubt it's any wise decision.

  • One solution (Score:2, Funny)

    by CBob (722532) <crzybob_in_nj.yahoo@com> on Wednesday July 14 2004, @09:45AM (#9696751)
    (Last Journal: Sunday September 26 2004, @10:31PM)
    Is to /. the site. Yep, it's refusing connections as of 5 mins ago

  • Re:Free gmail invites, 12 available. (Score:1)

    by katmai450 (91585) on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:51PM (#9693368)
    Benedict

    Nehalemph-misc (at) Yahoo Dot Com
    [ Parent ]

  • Brocktonstine (Score:1)

    by Osinoche (769786) <{osinoche} {at} {bellsouth.net}> on Tuesday July 13 2004, @09:52PM (#9693376)
    When Bendedict just isn't enough, there's Mussolini. Osi Osi Noche Smart, Very smart. http://osiroticwisdom.8m.com/osinochecarro.jpg
    [ Parent ]

  • Or ftp to 127.0.0.1 (Score:1, Offtopic)

    by anti-NAT (709310) on Wednesday July 14 2004, @12:38AM (#9694221)
    (http://www.nosense.org/)

    Lots of free porn there ...

    [ Parent ]
  • http://cuneaform.mozdev.org/
    Mozilla does have a wysiwyg editor looksee
    [ Parent ]
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