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Posted by timothy on Fri Dec 12, 2003 06:59 PM
from the stevens-pass-today dept.
Slashback tonight with another round of updates and corrections to recent stories, including transgenic fish, Hilbert's 16th problem, Microsoft's FAT patent plans, Utah's hyped public fiber network, and more. Read on for the details.

Still an acorn at this point. Jose Nazario writes with a correction to my recent post claiming that OpenBSD had gained a "fuzzy" user-profiling IDS. Jose writes: "It is NOT in tree. it is a privately developed research project. It is not an official project."

And Yes, the Apple I schematics were available, too. In response to the recent article about the freely available chip design from opencores.org implemented by Flextronics, Henry Keultjes offers a reminder that this is not the first time chip whose internals have been open for inspection:

"Happened quite some time ago with PowerPC. That's the essence of Microsoft's deal with IBM because without that Open Architecture Microsoft would have had to buy a lot more than it did. This for example is used in a roughly $150 French set-top box that has USB and, according to a friend in the UK who has tried that, runs just fine as a PC with the attached USB HDD, KB and rodent."

Could Wayne Inouye sell you an eMachine? After reading many pointed comments in the story about eMachine's Athlon offerings, arrasmith writes "To add to the topic of AMD64 eMachines and the launch of "I hate eMachine" posts I'll throw out why you should buy one.

eMachines are the number-3 seller of computers, only behind Dell and HP. If you are wondering about how that happened, you need to read about the new CEO.

Wayne Inouye has had some articles published about him in Business Week and Forbes. Great articles on how you can sell good computers at reasonable prices. And if you are wondering why eMachines is selling an AMD64 system read the Business Week article."

OK, as long as you buy it from us. Alien54 writes "As reported in the most recent Spyware Info Newsletter, Dell seems to have listened to the criticism handed to them last week, after their decision to forbid tech support persons from providing assistance to spyware-infected customers became public knowledge. They have partnered with PestPatrol, Inc. to sell Pest Patrol's spyware removal software to Dell customers. It is interesting to note that Dell does not recommend any freeware or shareware product because 'we cannot test these open source utilities reliably.' Which is simply silly, of course."

Utah may not be Utopia after all. brysnot writes "The Salt Lake Tribune reports that the Utopia project, which plans to run fiber to every home in Utah, has miscalculated its 2003 budget and now needs each member cities to come up with an additional $250,000. Also reported is that 'Its largest member, Salt Lake City, is uncertain whether to provide financial backing to guarantee payment of the principal and interest on the bonds the project needs -- a development that could force the project to be scaled back.'"

Writes Lighthop "The best way to overcome Qwest's vast resources and well orchestrated opposition is for citizens and business owners to speak out and let their city council members know we support them in approving UTOPIA's funding. We have to be visible and give them some political cover.

The 18 UTOPIA member cities are Brigham City, Cedar City, Cedar Hills, Centerville, Layton, Lindon, Midvale, Murray, Orem, Payson, Perry, Riverton, Roy, Salt Lake City, South Jordan, Taylorsville, Tremonton and West Valley."

Hilbert's 16th is still a problem. commodoresloat writes "The work of Elin Oxenhielm, the 22-year old Swedish student who apparently solved part of the 16th Hilbert problem, is coming under heavy fire from some prominent mathematicians, including her own adviser, who said the work contained "serious mistakes, which I think any educated mathematician can easily see." Here's an article in English. Oxenhielm responded to the criticism by saying that the journal that accepted her work, which now owns the copyright, is responsible for any errors. More information on this weblog."

Periscope is up, showdown commences. McSpew writes "The Register states that Microsoft's patents on the FAT filesystem may be subject to new scrutiny, thanks to their announced plan to collect royalties from media and CE manufacturers. The Public Patent Foundation is behind the effort to get the USPTO to start from scratch with Microsoft's FAT patents."

FDA gives GM fish sales the eerie green light. fishfishfish writes "The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Tuesday released a statement saying that it will not be stopping the sale of transgenic Zebra danios in the USA. The move could allow fish retailers in any U.S. state to sell the fish. Apart from California, where Arnie has banned them..."

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  • From her own adviser (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Adam_Trask (694692) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:04PM (#7707205)
    including her own adviser, who said the work contained "serious mistakes, which I think any educated mathematician can easily see."...
    We know geniuses tend to be social geeks, but getting that from your own adviser while you are still doing you PhD...wow! Good luck with that PhD!!
    • Zhou is currently not her advisor by Ryne (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:11PM
    • Re:From her own adviser (Score:5, Informative)

      by Noren (605012) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:22PM (#7707362)
      Zhou was her advisor when she got her Master's degree, but is no longer her advisor now that she's working on her PhD. From the blog cited in the story:
      Finally, I have a correction. I have spoken of Yishao Zhou as being both Elin Oxenhielm's professor and supervisor. The fact is, though, that Zhou was an advisor for Oxenhielm's masters degree. She is neither her professor nor her current advisor. And the paper submitted to Nonlinear Analysis isn't a paper that Zhou has been an advisor for.
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    • Re:From her own adviser (Score:4, Funny)

      by kramer2718 (598033) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:30PM (#7707410)
      (http://cec.wustl.edu/~kramer)
      She's still very hot, and obviously very intelligent. I'm in love with her regardless whether or not the proof stands.
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      • Re:From her own adviser by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:39PM
      • Her adviser ain't bad either! by pr0ntab (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:45PM
        • Not impossible: Inevitable (Score:5, Funny)

          by GuyMannDude (574364) on Friday December 12 2003, @08:05PM (#7707629)
          (Last Journal: Thursday June 19 2003, @11:50AM)

          Two non-fugly math chicks! What are the chances?

          Chances are probably not as bad as you might think. Two non-fugly math girls, lonely for a little love yet repulsed by the animate male lumps of lard and sweat surrounding them. Both so lonely, so sad. Trying to concentrate on their work. Young student huddled close together with advisor, going over a math problem. Then it happens! Zhou's hair brushes ever so lightly against Oxenheilm's cheek. They pull back from each other in surprise. They both felt it. And in that moment, their lives changed forever. It was unavoidable. It was their destiny. Their professional composure decays exponentially fast as they both realize the inexorable truth. They are going to have sex and there is nothing either of them can do to stop it. Is this attraction stable? Does it matter anymore?

          Clothes are pulled off each other in an optimal fashion. Each woman studies the continuous curvature of the other's body. Fingers trace the inflexion points, the saddle points, the contours, and then, utimately, the poles. Their fingers now slick with the complex residue of the other, their heart beats begin to constructively interfere with each other. The intensity of one heart increased by the feedback from the other. So wrong. So dangerous. So good.

          Groups give way to gropes. Rings give way to rimjobs. Fields give way to fondles. Their fingers, so skilled at manipulating mathematical equations, now find a use in manipulating each other's boundary layers. Both women writhe and squirm in unison until they are epsilon away from a mutual orgasm (epsilon -> 0 quadratically fast).

          And then it's over. No more theorems, lemmas, corrolaries or proofs. The two young women lie on the floor knowing that their relationship has changed forever. Without a word they clothe themselves and the impressionable young student leaves the office. Never again will they discuss this incident. This will be an isolated singularity hidden for all time in the vast infiniteness of time.

          GMD

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        • Re:Her adviser ain't bad either! by drix (Score:2) Saturday December 13 2003, @01:41AM
    • Zhou is protecting herself (Score:5, Insightful)

      by GuyMannDude (574364) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:35PM (#7707445)
      (Last Journal: Thursday June 19 2003, @11:50AM)

      Did you read the article that was linked to? Zhou's public comments are an attempt to distance herself from Oxenhielm. Oxenhielm thanks Zhou in her (possibly flawed) paper for assistance and Zhou is terrified that the community is going to laugh at her (Zhou). It's easy to forgive a youngster for getting excited and making mistakes but they would come down very hard on Zhou for letting stuff like this slip through. Effectively Oxenhielm has put Zhou's name on this work in spite of the fact that Zhou never reviewed it. You wouldn't want to be blamed for something you had no hand in, would you?

      Oxenhielm is probably too young to remember what happened to Ponds and Fleishman at University of Utah regarding cold fusion. Zhou wants to make sure that Oxenhielm doesn't take her down too when her proof gets shot down.

      GMD

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  • by Androgynous Coward (13443) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:07PM (#7707228)
    ...Dell does not recommend any freeware or shareware product becausefreeware or shareware product because 'we cannot test these open source utilities reliably.'

    Someone should inform Dell that freeware and/or shareware products are not necessarily open-source.

  • AMD 64bit CPU's and linux (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Space cowboy (13680) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:08PM (#7707238)
    (Last Journal: Friday April 27 2007, @02:20PM)
    So, assuming I get hold of one of these AMD 64-bit boxes, how hard/easy is it to get Linux compiled for 64-bit. What are the pitfalls with gcc (is an int 64 bit in 64-bit mode ?)

    The only reviews I've seen are on Windows OS's running in 32 bit mode (why, for crying out loud, if linux runs on them cleanly...) I think I saw that RH and Suse have 64-bit offerings, but RH is expensive... never tried Suse ....

    Just curious. Pointers to informative articles would be welcome :-)

    Simon
  • the FDA? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Mad_Rain (674268) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:10PM (#7707259)
    (Last Journal: Sunday May 18 2003, @11:53PM)
    So how come the Food and Drug Administration is the organization approving the sale of transgenic fish?

    Isn't there a more appropriate group to be handling this? Sure, let the FDA approve them if you plan on eating the fish, but I figured they were for display only. ;)

    • Re:the FDA? by Carnildo (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:21PM
      • Re:the FDA? by ron_ivi (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @10:10PM
    • Re:the FDA? by el-spectre (Score:3) Friday December 12 2003, @07:23PM
      • Re:the FDA? by AigariusDebian (Score:1) Saturday December 13 2003, @03:45AM
        • Re:the FDA? by AigariusDebian (Score:1) Saturday December 13 2003, @04:03AM
    • they're not (Score:5, Informative)

      by dangermouse (2242) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:25PM (#7707378)
      (http://slashdot.org/)
      If you read the statement [fda.gov], you'll see that they're not "approving" sales of the glofish. They're saying exactly what you are-- the glofish aren't in the FDA's bailiwick.
      Because tropical aquarium fish are not used for food purposes...
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    • Re:the FDA? by iminplaya (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:27PM
    • Fish & Game Dept. doesn't have the funds... by djupedal (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:50PM
    • Re:the FDA? by penguinoid (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:52PM
  • Why is there no law..... (Score:5, Insightful)

    that makes it impossible for a patent holder to hold people hostage on a technology after it becomes ubiquitous.
  • Conspiracy? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jfmiller (119037) * on Friday December 12 2003, @07:12PM (#7707278)
    (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday December 09 2003, @01:25AM)
    If one were a conspiracy theorist, and I am not, one might postulate that dell ether now or in the future plans to install spyware themselves and that open source programs would mess this up. Therefore they have told there techs not to recommend any of them, and now have found a willing corp. that will agree with them about the difference between marketing tools and spyware. Bu there is of course no proof and since I am not a conspiracy theorist, I will not make such accusations.

    IANACT

    JFMILLER
  • "we can not test"... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dbc (135354) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:17PM (#7707318)
    Well, they don't mention *why* they can not test. In a past life, I have managed both hardware and software validation laboratories. It is an expensive proposition to do it well. Windows is the worst.. Between 95, 95osr1, 95osr2, 98, 98se, 98me, variants of 2000... and the fact that every application install is an OS upgrade because of DLL-Hell... and then add in a zillion flavors of language support (OK, I was running 98me with the left-to-right Hebrew keyboard, the German version of Visual Studio, and Oriental character file name support...) ... oh, now cross all these with hardware variation, chipset, cpu, what-have-you.

    So, personally, I can well believe that *if* they looked at the cost of validating some particular build of some particular OSS software for download from their web site, that they would conclude that it cost too much. So "We can't because it costs too much" is a reasonable response. Chicken, yes, and maybe doesn't server the customer the best possible way, but reasonable.

    Of course, every time I've dealt with Dell in the past they've been idiots, so that might be a reason, too.
  • Open source testing (Score:4, Insightful)

    by gid13 (620803) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:20PM (#7707345)
    I suspect the reason they don't endorse anything open source is because if an open source project gives Dell a cut of the sale it's still nothing.

    I wonder if the claim they can't reliably test them would fall under false advertising or libel or something similar. Free software has a hard enough time getting accepted without the big companies that the masses haven't yet learned not to trust spreading complete crap like this.
  • copyright ownership? (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 12 2003, @07:20PM (#7707352)
    Oxenhielm responded to the criticism by saying that the journal that accepted her work, which now owns the copyright, is responsible for any errors.

    (1) Uh.. can you even "sell" the copyright of mathematical proofs like this? Mathematics is truly in a scary and sorry state if you have to hand over full copyright of such a work to get it published..

    (2) Way to dodge credibility and responsibility by claiming the journal that bought your work is now responsible if it's broken. She would have a great future in software sales.
    • Re:copyright ownership? by Noren (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:56PM
    • Re:copyright ownership? (Score:4, Informative)

      by thorgil (455385) on Friday December 12 2003, @08:13PM (#7707670)
      (http://slashdot.org/)
      the journal owns the text, not what the text says.
      big difference.

      In "ordinary errors" should have been catched in the review process. If not, the journal has bad reviewers.
      It sometimes cost money to publish scientific articles.
      In essance, you pay them to review your paper.
      Major errors that slip through, should be blamed on the journal, yes.

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    • Re:copyright ownership? by praksys (Score:3) Friday December 12 2003, @08:20PM
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  • Dell seems to have listened to the criticism handed to them last week, after their decision to forbid tech support persons from providing assistance to spyware-infected customers became public knowledge.

    I'm all for helping people when necessary, and I would agree with Dell for not wanting to waste their own money on people's stupidities.

    Now I work at an ISP and sub as IT staff at a mid sized college every here and there. (Fixing T1's, students' comps, all sorts of shit) main causes of students' issues? Spyware. I visited I think 80% of the campus based students for the same shit... Joe football player wants VirtuaGirl on his machine and clicks on everything in existence... Result? Spyware, viruses, and trojans. One chick had a 8k phone bill on her cellphone because she kept her info on a backdoored machine. All this after they receive bulletins, I've told the same ones over and over, etc.

    I would side with Dell, just think about the costs of a persons moronicy on the Dell level. So you have say low ball figure of 100,000 morons calling you because they've just downloaded garbage...

    TS = Tech Support (low ball salary) $10.00 an hour...

    DU = duration of call say 5 minutes

    CL = Calls (per 8 hour day)

    Whats that an extra +1000 tech support staff that need to be hired? 20mill per year thrown away on morons...

    • by cant_get_a_good_nick (172131) on Friday December 12 2003, @08:00PM (#7707593)
      I think you're being a bit harsh. Part of it is a lot of this crap comes from holes in software. Is someone who got rooted (can I say Administrator'ed?) because of an IE hole a moron? And before you say "patch your systems" I can say zero-day exploits and unpatched holes in IE.

      But lets say thats just part of the issue, most people are running unpacthed versions of Windows, using IE (unpacthed IE, shudder). They're browsing the web because . . . they bought the computer to browse the web. They're opening email attachments because . . . attachments are made for you to open. They're using the machien for what it's designed for. They're doing what all the nice shiny pretty people in the commercials say they can do.

      Closest real world analogy I can think of would be:
      guy comes home. Guy doesn't lock door. Robber comes in, beats guy up. Guy goes to hospital, but insurance refuses to pay because he was too stupid to lock the dorr, so go bleed somewhere else.

      Would never happen. We'd just solve the problem. Even the door angle is too simplistic, for most people it would be closer to "robber comes in through grate at bottom of building that connects through shaft which goes to his room". Non obvious stuff.

      The issue is computers are immature. Neither windows nor Unix were originally designed to be in a hostile network environment. UNIX has improved a lot more than Windows has, but there are still flaws. Until we redesign everything to live in a hostile world, we will have issues. Until then, it will be us morons who program the systems, and the marketing morons who sell a bill of goods that can't be delivered.
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    • Re:Drawing the Hardware/Software line by timeOday (Score:3) Friday December 12 2003, @08:15PM
    • Re:Drawing the Hardware/Software line by segment (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @08:27PM
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  • The move could allow fish retailers in any U.S. state to sell the fish. Apart from California, where Arnie has banned them...

    Are they completely illegal, or is it just illegal to sell them? Could I legally bring them from another state into California?
    • Re:illegal fish by Rura Penthe (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:39PM
    • They could swim into the state. by sulli (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:48PM
      • Re:They could swim into the state. by dirvish (Score:2) Friday December 12 2003, @07:58PM
        • Re:They could swim into the state. by rmull (Score:3) Friday December 12 2003, @08:56PM
          • by Daniel_Staal (609844) <DStaal@usa.net> on Friday December 12 2003, @09:58PM (#7708226)
            "Ooh! Look at the little glowing fish! I've lost all interest in spawning!"

            *Sigh*. No, this is closer: "I'm sorry, I just can't do this with it glowing at me!"

            "Ok, I'll get him out of the stream." (Pause, splash) "Now, where were we..."

            (Fishy noises)

            "I just can't... I can't stop thinking about it glowing at me."

            "It's gone. It can't be glowing at you now."

            "But I can't get it out of my head!"

            "What is it, really? Am I to fat? To thin? To red? Not red enough? What? Last night you had a headache, the night before that it was your 'time of the month', before that... Don't you love me anymore?"

            "I... I don't know. I'm not sure I do."

            "What happened? What went wrong?"

            "I'm not sure. I think we just grew apart. Please, let's not talk about it now. I... I need to sleep."

            "Fine."

            "Um, could you sleep on the other side of the streambed..."

            And it is all due to a glowing fish...

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  • Oxenhielm responded to the criticism by saying that the journal that accepted her work, which now owns the copyright, is responsible for any errors.

    As one who has refereed math papers, I think that this is not true. When I am sent a letter asking me to referee, I am asked to comment on how important the result is, and I am asked to assess how correct the paper is, but often I am explicitly told that errors in the paper are the responsibility of the author, and not the referee.

  • Disappointed (Score:2)

    by TeknoHog (164938) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:49PM (#7707525)
    (http://iki.fi/teknohog/ | Last Journal: Tuesday August 14, @06:49PM)
    "I refer to Nonlinear Analysis. They have evaluated the paper, they accepted it for publication and they have the copyright of its contents - and thus they are responsible for its correctness," Oxenhielm told Aftenposten English.

    This sounds very unprofessional and unscientific. I hope this is a misunderstanding on the side of Aftenposten. Otherwise this seems like a stupid publicity stunt. I wonder if we have to pay a $699 license to access the original paper ;-).

  • The important thing is... (Score:1, Offtopic)

    by herrvinny (698679) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:53PM (#7707556)
    The work of Elin Oxenhielm, the 22-year old Swedish student who apparently solved part of the 16th Hilbert problem, is coming under heavy fire from some prominent mathematicians, including her own adviser,

    Well, the important thing is, she got her name mentioned on slashdot. That's gotta be good on your resume... ;-)
  • Little math discrepency? (Score:5, Informative)

    by kwalker (1383) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:55PM (#7707570)
    (Last Journal: Saturday March 27 2004, @05:00PM)
    According to the SLTrib article:

    "...needs member cities to pony up an additional $250,000 so it can continue to pursue its bond offering."

    So it looks like they're just $250k short, not $4.5 million short as the poster seemed to indicate. In fact, if I'm reading this right, it means each city would only need to come up with ~$14k each, if they're going to split it equally.
  • I quote: (Score:1)

    by cliffy2000 (185461) on Friday December 12 2003, @07:58PM (#7707583)
    (Last Journal: Friday July 18 2003, @10:58PM)
    "Utah may not be Utopia after all."
    Gee... what tipped you off to that?
    Maybe the fact that SCO is headquartered there?
    • Re:I quote: by wildchild07770 (Score:1) Saturday December 13 2003, @10:26AM
  • Ownership of Proof (Score:5, Insightful)

    by EricFenderson (64220) <ross@kallisti.us> on Friday December 12 2003, @07:59PM (#7707589)

    Oxenhielm responded to the criticism by saying that the journal that accepted her work, which now owns the copyright, is responsible for any errors. More information on this weblog."

    Proofs come, and proofs go. Proof are submitted and withdrawn. Whether she's right or wrong is interesting, but as a mathematician, this line really incites me.

    Why should journals and publication houses own the copyrights to proofs? Once something is proven it isn't something internal anymore - it becomes a part of the public body of mathematical knowledge.

    I often complain about restrictive software copyrights, but with all the great free software available, that's not much of a detriment. The unavailability of critical mathemaical writings really is.

    I study a lot of math on my own - there isn't much of an undergraduate market for the areas of math that I'm into, especially at my university. When publication houses hold the copyrights on books, they'd rather sit on them and drive prices up then see them published.

    Many results that have shaken the math world to its core are only available in original printings, on the used book market. They often cost many hundreds of dollars, when they haven't all been purchased by university libraries.

    So instead of being able to find paperback copies of important works by people like Cohen, Godel, and Tarski, I'm forced to fight with other readers over the single copies available in my school's library.

    I hate the profit motive.


  • Whether she's right or wrong... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by dysprosia (661648) on Friday December 12 2003, @08:09PM (#7707646)
    If she developed some new techniques in solving the problem or made some advance into solving the problem, then that's important enough. Math is a collaborative science, too, in any case...if she's not right, someone could build on her work and improve it.
  • Math? Blech (Score:3, Insightful)

    by NanoGator (522640) on Friday December 12 2003, @08:14PM (#7707674)
    (http://www.ferion.net/ | Last Journal: Monday May 06 2002, @02:16AM)
    Can anybody give me a layman's version of what this mystical math problem is? The f'n article thinks I already know this.
    • Re:Math? Blech by Ioldanach (Score:3) Friday December 12 2003, @10:05PM
    • Re:Math? Blech by azaris (Score:2) Saturday December 13 2003, @05:28AM
    • Re:Math? Blech by An Anonymous Hero (Score:2) Saturday December 13 2003, @09:37AM
  • Here's an idea for Dell... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by bckrispi (725257) on Friday December 12 2003, @08:18PM (#7707691)
    Instead of making their customers jump through hoops to remove the preinstalled spyware, why don't they grow a pair and forbid the crap from being installed in the first place??? Don't they have some kind of say-so in what gets loaded on their products? Shouldn't they be held accountable for protecting their customers' privacy? As the saying goes: "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem". It looks like Dell has already determined which side of the line they want to be on.
  • FAT Patents (Score:2, Informative)

    by certsoft (442059) on Friday December 12 2003, @08:28PM (#7707748)
    (http://www.certsoft.com/)
    As was pointed out numerous times in the original slashdot article, the patents refer to long file names. If you don't implement them, then no problem, so why insist on saying the patent is on FAT?
    • name suggestion by commodoresloat (Score:2) Saturday December 13 2003, @12:35AM
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  • by eclectro (227083) on Friday December 12 2003, @08:32PM (#7707765)

    But what matters is that she is good at lovin'

  • The Governator (Score:4, Funny)

    by Scrameustache (459504) on Friday December 12 2003, @08:45PM (#7707854)
    (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Sunday September 09, @10:43PM)
    it will not be stopping the sale of transgenic Zebra danios in the USA. [...] Apart from California, where Arnie has banned them...

    Apparently, Arnold want to be the only genetically modified organism in California...
  • by smchris (464899) on Friday December 12 2003, @09:23PM (#7708050)

    What do you need? What will it cost you?

    I set up an uncompressed Knoppix on a dual-boot for an eMachine dial-up user new to linux. Didn't go badly. 64 meg video was OK. Response was OK. There was a proprietary modem driver available with a crippled demo download that installed fine. If you just need a computer and can get a good price, I wouldn't knock it.
  • by bit01 (644603) on Friday December 12 2003, @11:31PM (#7708587)
    And Yes, the Apple I schematics were available, too. In response to the recent article about the freely available chip design from opencores.org implemented by Flextronics, Henry Keultjes offers a reminder that this is not the first time chip whose internals have been open for inspection: "Happened quite some time ago with PowerPC. That's the essence of Microsoft's deal with IBM because without that Open Architecture Microsoft would have had to buy a lot more than it did. This for example [ibm.com] is used in a roughly $150 French set-top box that has USB and, according to a friend in the UK who has tried that, runs just fine as a PC with the attached USB HDD, KB and rodent."

    Check out the link. The above comment has nothing to do with open chip cores. While it may be a simple error by a non- hardware person the unnecessary mention of M$, which normally has little to do with PowerPC's, suggests an M$ astroturfer/troll in action.

    The link shows nothing more than a high level chip diagram. This has nothing to do with open chip designs.

    ---

    Astroturfers are scum

  • Author's responsibility (Score:5, Informative)

    by Phragmen-Lindelof (246056) on Saturday December 13 2003, @12:05AM (#7708723)
    In mathematics, the accuracy of a proof is the responsibility of the author. A referee will attempt to determine the correctness of a proof but neither an editor nor a referee is ultimately responsible. Publishing an incorrect proof is not always bad; the "Yamabe conjecture" arose from a paper by Yamabe in 1960 (Osaka Math. Journal, Vol. 12, pp. 21-37) which was accepted as correct. (Rick Schoen provided a correct proof for the case of compact manifolds in 1984 and, for example, Zhiren Jin provided a counterexample for noncompact manifolds in 1986.) However, claiming that the publisher is responsible for errors is silly and unprofessional.
  • eMachines T6000 is now in my hands (Score:4, Interesting)

    by fo0bar (261207) * on Saturday December 13 2003, @12:07AM (#7708733)
    I am now the first owner of an eMachines T6000 in Reno (which isn't too suprising considering this town...)

    After reading the original story, I tracked down the bestbuy.com page for it, and it said that they had pickup service for this specific item at the local best buy. I called them up and spent about a half hour on the phone while they tracked them down. Turns out they didn't even have them on the floor yet.

    I hopped in the car and drove down. Turns out they had 5 in, and I was buying the first one. Nifty. I literally just got back about 10 minutes ago and have just plugged it in, so I don't have much of a review yet, except for this: the 32-bit Windows XP Home that was preloaded took a little under 4 seconds to go from the end of the computer's POST to a start menu.

    20:58 <@xi> that is pretty fast
    20:59 <@xi> now imagine how fast a *real* OS will boot

    I am currently downloading the gentoo amd64 livecd.

  • on Oxenhielm's paper (Score:5, Informative)

    by varaani (77889) on Saturday December 13 2003, @12:17AM (#7708781)
    (disclaimer: my background in dynamical systems, much less this particular problem, is not that strong)

    The second part of Hilbert's 16th problem deals with limit cycles, the way things will go on eventually in dynamical systems if they are not disturbed externally. The subproblem 2/3 of this problem (it's the indexing that makes math complicated..) asks if there exists an upper bound on the number of different limit cycles one can have in the system.

    Oxenhielm attacks the problem by considering first a special case called the Lienard equation and approximating its solution by harmonic oscillation. The proof begins: "Noticing that the state variable x of the Lienard equation (1) behaves approximately like a sine function in simulations (see Fig.1),we assume -- in order to make a good approximation of x -- that both state variables are dominated by a harmonic term ...."
    Now, to my engineer's eyes, the functions in Fig.1 seem more like triangular waves, with definitely more than one single frequency component. Yet the accuracy of the approximation has not been considered at all in the paper. Also, 'proof by looking at results of simulations' is not really valid if you don't have any other evidence.

    Another bad part is on page 6, where it is claimed that "Note that the method of describing functions may be used in a similar manner as in the proof above,to find the upper bounds for the Hilbert number in any planar polynomial vectorfield. Thus, it is possible to completely solve the second part of Hilbert's 16th problem by using this approach."
    Wait a minute, how did that happen? What if the harmonic approximation fails on other than Lienard equations? It might just work, I have no idea, but this assertment hardly proves the fact.

    Note however that this is very different from Andrew Wiles' proof of the Fermat conjencture. While very few people in the world could understand the odd-hundred pages of Wiles' proof, Oxenhielm's paper is just eight pages of much more accessible mathematics.

    But I have a paper in the review process myself, and sure as hell would hate to see nonqualified people discussing its validity publicly, so maybe I'll just shut up now :)
  • hilbert's (Score:2)

    by squarefish (561836) * on Saturday December 13 2003, @03:47AM (#7709450)
    I'm a vegetarian, but last time I was down in Austin [austin.tx.us], my buddy Sam [slashdot.org] has this bright idea to order lunch from Hilbert's [rr.com]. It's a fuckin' buger joint. The bastard kept reassuring me that it would be ok, but they totally fucked up my order. I hate sam now....

    I would have to say that this was personally first problem with Hilbert's, but it was such a large problem that I will never order food from them again.
  • Hmmm... (Score:1)

    by chaoticset (574254) on Saturday December 13 2003, @08:13AM (#7710014)
    (http://chaoticset.perlmonk.org/)
    ...maybe this is her attempt to show that the editorial standards of academic journals are slipping?

    I mean, that sort of thing has happened before [nyu.edu].
  • by X-Nc (34250) <nilrin@gmailGINSBERG.com minus poet> on Saturday December 13 2003, @08:57AM (#7710119)
    (Last Journal: Monday March 01 2004, @11:39PM)
    After you look at the pics here [aftenposten.no] and here [aftonbladet.se] you can see that she is obviouslly a geek chick. It also looks like she could be kinda cute if she let her hair down, frillied up a bit and took off the glasses (though, for me, the glasses are an actractive feature). How many girls out there are geek enough to handle this level of techieness? I don't care if her "proof" turns out to be 100% correct or not. Just the fact that she can understand this level of geekness is enough for me. If I wasn't twice her age and in the wrong hemisphere you know I'd have to seek her out and ask her on a date. (And you also know that even if I was a local 22yo geek guy she'd still wouldn't go out with me).
  • Um, doesn't anyone remember that his first public proof of Fermat's Last Theorem contained a huge, embarrassing mistake? But because he was respected, nobody criticized him. But some young Swedish girl makes an error, and everyone is on her back? Give me a break.
  • Re:Why UTOPIA? (Score:3, Insightful)

    What do the taxpayers get by building an infrastructure that will be