WLAN Visualization Meets GIS Mapping
Posted by
Hemos
on Tue Feb 12, 2002 01:13 PM
from the pat-metheney-meets-wifi dept.
from the pat-metheney-meets-wifi dept.
martin dodge writes "The Wireless Ntwork Visualization Project (Univ. of Kansas)
has an interesting alternative to just dot maps of wlan base stations. These guys are mapping out the zone of availability using gis. nice maps using aerial photographs backdrops as well.
If you are interested, check out other ways of mapping 802.11b network infrastructure.
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Implications (Score:1)
FYI, GIS==Geographic Information System (Score:3, Informative)
I love it! (Score:1)
Now, if we can just get them to do the project at a national level and post a searchable map, like Mapquest, on the web it would be awesome. Going on the road? Just grab a map before you go and stay connected the whole time, probably free of charge too! Since, so many of the WLANs aren't secured.
Re:I love it! (Score:4, Informative)
One thing you do need to do is change channels. 802.11b specifies 11 channels (in the US), so to be thourough you should check them all. To be efficient, you can only check 1,6,11 because that's what everybody uses. Depending on how many channels you are checking and how fast you scan puts a limit on how fast you can drive and expect to pick everything up.
Of course, if you are just checking out coverage for a specific AP, you can stay on it's channel and wander around the immediate area to get lots of good data points about it's coverage. It all depends on what exactly you are trying to accomplish.
One obvious application (Score:2, Funny)
Wireless Mapping (Score:2, Interesting)
Cool old use for new! (Score:4, Informative)
Maps? I want Road Signs (Score:1)
Why don't they use some of their research funds to lobby the Highway Administration for road signs that would clearly mark places where there was donated bandwidth to be had?
Smoking Crack... (Score:1, Troll)
I don't think I'll be using their Consulting Services [ku.edu] any time soon...
Not quite the same but still... (Score:4, Informative)
You can see it in action here [interrorem.com]
Its very handy to get a clearer idea of where exactly those pesky APs are when you blat past them in a batmobile with a pringles tin sticking out the roof...
my little project at UCSD (Score:4, Interesting)
http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/~ghamerly/wireless.html [ucsd.edu]
Secuirty related questions. (Score:3, Interesting)
Linksys (and other folks) have a flag that disables the SSID broadcast 'feature' of their basestations.
According to netstumbler.com:
"Linksys' latest firmware update for WAP11 includes closed network support. It disables the SSID beacon broadcast and as a result no longer shows up on either the Boingo or CyberPixie roaming clients, nor on Apsniff or NetStumbler network discovery tools. "
Is this REALLY a security 'adder' or can folks discover the network in other ways?
Our
We're investigating adding our VPN to the mix, but it's a non-trivial network topology change for a group that really doesn't have sensitive data.
Re:Secuirty related questions. (Score:4, Informative)
Many APs allow the user to turn off the SSID broadcast, however if someone nearby has popped their WLAN card into monitor mode, this will enable them to listen into the raw 802.11 frames that carry all your precious data.
Plus anything else that happens to float by on channel 10 for instance.
sniffer-pro and more importantly airopeek both do this.
Mac list restrictions can be overcome in this manner as well: you can specify a MAC by using Ifconfig under linux
kismet does this nicely as part of its "ip address space" discovery work, along with cisco infrastructure enumeration with CDP.
Your plan *should* be pretty secure against casual "browsers". Unless your company has made some enemies recently or is worth something in "Commercial Intelligence" terms, you should be pretty clean.
Of course, I would put a VPN in *as well*...
Grass - Public Domain GIS System (Score:2, Informative)
Also, most GIS work is done using ESRI's GIS and Mapping software [esri.com].
Netstumbler (Score:4, Informative)
Working in cellular (Score:2, Interesting)
reinventing the wheel (Score:1)
map limitations (Score:1)
Its not as trivial as it seems because coverage can in fact ooze down the street due to tall buildings lining the block, for example. This can either be directly measured or maybe even modeled if one knows the the types of structures in the map.
Not a new idea (Score:1)
From what I can tell, they're just taking i-cubed's idea and applying it to 802.11...something providers will surely do if they ever want to blanket areas with coverage (as cell providers do this now).
Pretty cool anyway, but I must point out prior established work in this area.
They also have some really cool images of my town from above.
MOD PARENT UP! (Score:2)
I also betcha Cambridge maps as one, big, continuous WLAN. f*ckers.