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The Planet's Most Moronic Hacker
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CmdrTaco
on Wed Apr 27, 2005 08:00 AM
from the more-31337-than-31337 dept.
from the more-31337-than-31337 dept.
RawGutts writes "This is the story of "bitchchecker" (the hacker) a user who lost it because he thought he had been kicked of an IRC channel by "Elch". The hacker comes back on the channel threatening to hack and ruin Elch's machine, and dares Elch to give his IP address.
The address given was 127.0.0.1. "
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Life imitating art, possibly? (Score:5, Funny)
Life imitates art (or else some would-be "author" copies Illiad):
Another reason [userfriendly.org] people should read Userfriendly.org [userfriendly.org].
Re:Life imitating art, possibly? (Score:5, Funny)
That makes one reason.
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Oh nooo (Score:5, Funny)
Hey ! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Hey ! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Oh nooo (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Other fun IP addresses to attack! (Score:5, Interesting)
Interestingly, on a windows XP machine the following happens:
Pinging 127.54.34.67 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
While on my Mepis box I get the following:
PING 127.43.54.2 (127.43.54.2): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 127.43.54.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.0 ms
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Had a similar, RL case (Score:5, Funny)
Never saw him again.
Re:Had a similar, RL case (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:warez.phantom.com (Score:5, Funny)
I rarely saw the results of what happened when men in dark suits came knocking at their door, but my imagination was satisfaction enough.
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there needs to be a "forum watch" section (Score:5, Insightful)
My URL. (Score:5, Informative)
Slashdotted (Score:5, Informative)
Something nice I read on www.stophiphop.de (got pointed there by a comment on www.macguardians.de) is this nice story of a hacker: http://www.beast.mos-worlds.de/modules/new...php?s toryid=184 (site might be down, quite a lot of people are reading this).
In case you don't speak german (just as this hacker), I've tried a little translation to english. I might have made some spelling errors, but the original spelling wasn't perfect either. The guy really said "buy buy" in the german version. I've posted this on the forum on http://www.desertcombat.com before, so if this looks familiar, might be the same. I've corrected some mistakes and put the < > back to the right version (The DC forum does not support them). All censoring was done by this particular forum here.
Notice that in germany we get DST earlier than in the US.
The story starts (I'm shortcutting here) with an [Please control your cussing] insulting everyone on the IRC channel. Most people there believed it was rather funny, but it got even more funny. For information: The dangerous hacker is called bitchchecker and the one being hacked and original author of the comments, who is talking here, is known as Elch. 127.0.0.1 is always the IP-adress of the computer you're currently using, any request there will return to your computer.
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* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-a97f9137.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout#)
* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-61a2169c.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #stopHipHop
<bitchchecker> why do you kick me
<bitchchecker> can't you discus normally
<bitchchecker> answer!
<Elch> we didn't kick you
<Elch> you had a ping timeout: * bitchchecker (~java@euirc-a97f9137.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout#)
<bitchchecker> what ping man
<bitchchecker> the timing of my pc is right
<bitchchecker> i even have dst
<bitchchecker> you banned me
<bitchchecker> amit it you son of a bitch
<HopperHunter|afk> LOL
<HopperHunter|afk> shit you're stupid, DST^^
<bitchchecker> shut your mouth WE HAVE DST!
<bitchchecker> for two weaks already
<bitchchecker> when you start your pc there is a message from windows that DST is applied.
<Elch> You're a real computer expert
<bitchchecker> shut up i hack you
<Elch> ok, i'm quiet, hope you don't show us how good a hacker you are ^^
<bitchchecker> tell me your network number man then you're dead
<Elch> Eh, it's 129.0.0.1
<Elch> or maybe 127.0.0.1
<Elch> yes exactly that's it: 127.0.0.1 I'm waiting for you great attack
<bitchchecker> in five minutes your hard drive is deleted
<Elch> Now I'm frightened
<bitchchecker> shut up you'll be gone
<bitchchecker> i have a program where i enter your ip and you're dead
<bitchchecker> say goodbye
<Elch> to whom?
<bitchchecker> to you man
<bitchchecker> buy buy
<Elch> I'm shivering thinking about such great Hack0rs like you
* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-61a2169c.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout#)
What happened is clear: That guy entered his own IP-Adress in his mighty Hack-Tool and crashed his own PC. This way, the attack on my PC was a failure. I was already starting to think that I did not have to worry, but a good hacker never calls it a day. Two minutes later he returned.
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* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-b5cd558e.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #stopHipHop
<bitchchecker> dude be happy my pc crashed otherwise you'd be gone
<Metanot> lol
<Elch> bitchchecker: Then try hacking me again... I still have the same IP: 127.0.0.1
<bitchchecker> you're so stupid man
<bitchchecker> say buy buy
<Metanot> ah, [Please control your cussing] off
<bitchchecker> buy buy elch
* bitchchecker (~java@euirc-b5cd558e.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout#)
There was
People have BitchChecker pegged all wrong (Score:5, Funny)
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A slightly different twist... (Score:5, Interesting)
sanity check (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't think... (Score:5, Funny)
Seriously, this or things like it have been around since the idea of a loopback was presented. There's got to be at least a dozen posts to bash.org with the joke, it's used on IRC at least daily, and as others have pointed out, it's previosuly been in UF and Dilbert.
It's like Taco just figured out loopbacks, and he's all proud.
Before (Score:5, Insightful)
Not everyone has seen it and even if you have, its a joke, its funny, laugh. Most of us are at work and its nice to get some humor in the day.
Re:Before (Score:5, Insightful)
Good point! Slashdot should run this joke every day from now on. After all, there may be some poor schmuck who hasn't seen it yet.
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Please Rob, don't do this - OT to some extent (Score:5, Insightful)
Please do NOT let the site change into bash.org. I enjoy reading bash.org for certain things, and I enjoy reading slashdot for somethings. If I want bash, I'll go there. If I want slashdot, I point my browser to slashdot.org.
Now - please look at the stories submitted here. There is one about a fucking snail being faster than an aDSL line. Then there is a 12 year old story about a 127.0.0.1 hacker.
I realise that you guys are now owned by the OSDL. I realise that you now have ads on. However, don't let the compulsion to feed your advertising revenue overcome your editorial standards. By keeping slashdot focused on actual tech stories, about "Stuff that Matters", you attract a class of reader who is more likely to actually buy the server or the linux product that your advertiser is offering, enabling you to increase the rates that you charge.
Now I like a good laugh as much as the next person, but this is just lame. On slashdot, the stories themselves don't need to be funny, it's the people who post who make it funny. Granted, the beowulf cluster jokes are getting a bit old.
C'mon guys, be strong, stand up to your sponsors.
R.
Re:Please Rob, don't do this - OT to some extent (Score:5, Insightful)
I thought the snail data transfer article was pretty damn amusing. This hacker one, less so, but humor is generally pretty hit or miss.
Slashdot is about a lot of things, one of those being tech news, another being tech humor. There's icons for humor, there's big bold headlines giving you an idea what an article is about. Skim those, and skip what you don't like. That's how it has worked for years. YEARS!
Having a little fun doesn't diminish the quality of the other articles. Go to any news source, they've always got quirky stories lying around somewhere. It doesn't devalue the rest of the content, it's just there because some people like to read it.
Don't pretend like your time is so precious and scarce that you can't be bothered filtering out what you're not interested in. Slashdot is in no way an efficient way to get good news.
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*Cracker*, dammit! (Score:5, Informative)
No, darn it all to heck, this person is not the planet's most moronic hacker [catb.org] He is the planet's most moronic cracker [catb.org].
Re:*Cracker*, dammit! (Score:5, Informative)
This person is the planet's most moronic SCRIPT KIDDIE.
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Re:*Cracker*, dammit! (Score:5, Insightful)
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Word Use in Subcultures (Score:5, Insightful)
Physicists still use the word "velocity" to mean both speed and direction, while the mainstream uses it to just mean speed. All scientists use the word "theory" to mean a tested hypothesis, while most people use it synonymously with hyptohesis.
I could go on with similar examples. We don't have to give up our name "hacker" to mean a coding guru, and cracker to mean a malicious coder. We are a subculture, and it is perfectly acceptible for us to use very tightly-defined words that the rest of socieity misuses. We do not have to accept their definitions just because everyone else uses it that way.
We do not have to participate in consensual stupidity.
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It's a translation (Score:5, Informative)
The Ping of NO CARRIER (Score:5, Funny)
Anyway, when someone started acting like that idiot in the story on IRC, daring people to hack their machine or whatever, I'd say "OK" and send them a ping with the payload:
+++ATH0^M
And half the time, they'd suddenly leave the channel and come back a few minutes later complaining about their ISP or their phone line or something.
And I'd just be quietly giggling to myself.
It was really fun because the arrogance/stupidity of these kinds of kiddies on IRC was directly proportional to the likelyhood of them having a crap modem that would fall for that...
Reminded me of a story.... (Score:5, Funny)
Way back in the olden days, we had a VAX/VMS mini that we did all our Computer Science projects on. Being bored one day, I wrote a "Fortune Cookie" program one day that others could include into their login profile to get a random fortune when they log in.
I decided to mess with a certain person's mind who was dialing in from home to the system (at a blazing 2400baud, mind you). I modified my Fortune code to detect that it was him logging, in, and when he did, it spawned off a new process that would inject random characters onto his screen at random intervals. I put the code in place, and watched the fun.
We saw him log in, and then log out after about a minute. Then log back in again. And then log out. And then back in again. And then out. After a while, he sent us an email complaining that he couldn't get a clean phone line into the system that evening for the life of him. Hee hee. I don't think we ever fussed up to it.
Mirror incase of slashdotting (Score:5, Funny)
Re:News? (Score:5, Insightful)
Check "humor" in topics you want filtered off in your prefs and stop complaining.
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Re:News? (Score:5, Interesting)
New recruits have been getting sent out for things like left-handed smoke shifters, buckets of prop wash, pieces of shore line, and similar fool's errands for as long as there have been armies. Gofer jokes [utc.edu] and snipe hunts [answerbag.com] are old as the hills, but it's still funny when you find someone clueless enough to fall for one.
Pranking clueless newbies is a time-honored tradition, and is a necessary rite of passage for the prankee.
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Re:I'll bet everyone $10 (Score:5, Funny)
What? No, no, that is not possible. They have a chatlog as evidence and everything! And it is on the frontpage of Slashdot so you KNOW it has to be true.
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Re:I'll bet everyone $10 (Score:5, Informative)
quotes [bash.org]
More quotes [qdb.us]
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Re:I'll bet everyone $10 (Score:5, Funny)
So i did a whois and a few other things and found out he was using windows.
It was fairly obvious that at best the guy was a skript kiddie and had hardly any knowlidge of the system
he mutterd some obscenitys and not so polietly asked me to prove it
So i said to him to type msconfig in a command prompt(i still have some working knowlidge of windows).
He then continue to mutter obscenitys about this having already been there , i decided to elaborate and told him i had installed two services as proof of my skill , those were RPC and messenger(this was a few years back) . He started becoming increasingly disturbed so i went for the kill and had a freind who uses windows to netsend him a message(he had forgoten to mask his ip) and in the message it said," the only way to remove the ""Virus was to deselect the rpc service and reboot"
A few moments later a ping timeout message and the guy was never heard from again.
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Re:I'll bet everyone $10 (Score:5, Informative)
Then I started finding evidence. You know, that was the first time I'd ever heard about the system immutable flag in OpenBSD. They screwed with my
So, when I actually had noticed the problem with my
Now, I system immutable flag all my important files that I don't want to change if some script kiddy does happen to get into my OpenBSD box.
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I'll take that bet... (Score:5, Interesting)
The kid was, of course, an idiot. He could never get an assignment done because, in his words, it was too easy and beneath him. A sample assignment that he couldn't do would be to flash an LED once per second by writing an application in C - my version of the program was about 8 lines long.
After a sit down trying to level set him and tell him he wasn't as smart as he thought he was, he berated me and the teacher and told us that he was going to show us how good he was and trash our systems. I told him go for it, as I had a router firewall as well as a software firewall on my PC at home.
He asked for my IP and wrote "127.0.0.1" carefully on his hand.
The school didn't see him for a week and when he came in, he accused me that to stop him from hacking my computer, I hacked his. His parents were pretty agitated because the home computer was trashed and they wanted to bring a lawsuit against me.
We explained to the parents that 127.0.0.1 was the local PC's IP address and any attacks directed against this IP would actually be on the launching computer. We told them to go to a computer store and confirm what we were saying. We never heard back from the parents and the kid never returned to the class.
I've told a few people that if they want to show off how good they are, let's see them hack my computer at 127.0.0.1 over the years (it's in "123 Robot Experiments for the Evil Genius") and 60% of the time they've gotten the joke immediately. For the remainder, except for this one time, everybody else has figured it out before damage was done.
myke
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Re:I'll take that bet... (Score:5, Funny)
Oh NOW I understand why it's funny
;-]
Jaj
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Yes, there are people that dumb (Score:5, Insightful)
The moment you use the rationale "People aren't that stupid" to say why something can't happen, they you've already lost the argument.
People buy things from Spam and give out their personal details in response to bulk e-mail. I'm sorry, but many people are dumb as rocks.
Besides, we already know what 127.0.0.1 is, but how's a novice to know this, if all they know of computers is what they've picked up in a few weeks of experimenting?
I don't find this implausible at all. Even the fact that the "hacker" never made the connection between their hack attempts and being disconnected is consistent with what I've seen of human nature. I used to have an employee who blew five fuses on her UPS and didn't realize that it happened every time she plugged her space heater into the UPS!
I had her plug the Space Heater into the wall, and the UPS stopped blowing fuses.
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Re:Yes, there are people that dumb (Score:5, Funny)
I do alot of rollouts. Barely IT work at all, the guy who mops the control center floor at NASA doesn't get to claim to be an astronaut or rocket scientist either. But the worst rollout ever, was for a public school system.
This public school system was more ghetto than most, by rollout, I mean maybe replacing 3-5 of the PCs in labs that had 20 (so there was always a mix of crap systems), maybe only half the computer lab rooms in any one building. And often, things would never be scheduled right, so we were told to go in the rooms even during class, and just be quiet, teachers knew we'd be there, wasn't a problem.
Being ghetto, the kids weren't expected to do real schoolwork, and would goof off. Porn sites, gambling, all the stupidest shit you've ever seen. Well, 20 minutes into this, almost done setting it all up, this black girl screams, "Oh my god, it say I won a million dollar, is it fo real!?!". A stupid spammy popup of course, but she had no critical thinking skills, nor had anyone ever bothered to tell her how much spam like this was out there. No big deal right, she's a kid?
So, me being the fool that I am, I try to explain to her what it is, not sarcastic or anything. Really. Can't remember how I worded it, but the tone of my voice was such that I was trying my best not to sound like I was patronizing, nor like I was making fun of her. Before I had even finished the one sentence, the cow-like teacher was "How do you know, she might have won something, you jus don want her to win." As the teacher waddled over to the computer screen, I shut up, she didn't bother to follow up with a tirade, and I finished up as soon as possible. Got the hell out of there.
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Re:Yes, there are people that dumb (Score:5, Interesting)
If "Program Files" and the System root are in the second half that's being deleted, and it's a delete and not a format, then yes, I can see that happening.
As a matter of fact I have seen this happen before. At a former job, we had a sales guy who insisted on "cleaning up" his hard drive every now and then. In Windows 98 he deleted large swaths of the Windows directory and Program Files, and the system ran for the rest of the day. When he rebooted however, the system was dead.
The same sales guy did it again during the W2K roll out. The users all had admin accounts on their machines (Don't ask, it was because of a political nightmare involving a management staff who thought having less than an administrator account meant they were being treated like children.)
Anyway, he tried to delete the c:\winnt folder, and kept at it while getting error messages about files being in use. He finally called IT when he got tired of "File in use" errors. I got up there and listened politely as he explained what he'd been doing.
"You know of course that Windows 2000 is based on Windows NT, right?"
"Yeah, but I'm not running NT, so I don't need it."
"In Windows 2000, the WINNT folder is the same thing as the Windows directory in 98. Did you notice that you don't have a Windows directory?"
He tried to reboot, and sure enough, the system was dead.
A management meeting ensued where I had to defend "Renaming the Windows directory" on the new Windows 2000 systems. The fact that it's the default name, and that the systems came from Dell that way, meant nothing. The company owner repeatedly told me to "Just rename it, I don't see why you'd have to redo the server."
The moral of the story is of course, that Windows is surprisingly resilient in terms of running as vital system files are deleted from underneath it.
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Re:I'll bet everyone $10 (Score:5, Informative)
The feature your talking about is called "Strike Back" and what it does is send some email, do a port scan, some other shit. It does not, in face, "attack" anything in a meaningful way. It is just a colorful phrase.
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Re:I'll bet everyone $10 (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:I'll bet everyone $10 (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:I'll bet everyone $10 (Score:5, Insightful)
Its a funny little fiction, written by someone who knows enough to know that 127.0.0.1 is a loopback, but who maybe doesn't know enough to make his story more plausible... if thats what he is going for. I don't think he really was, and its more meant as a good funny chunk of internet lore/fable, on a situation many of us common to IRC have seen.
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Re:How is this newsworthy? (Score:5, Informative)
It's in the "It's Funny, Laugh" section. It's newsworthy in a section whose purpose is to make people laugh.
Cheers,
Ian
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Re:How is this newsworthy? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:This has happened on every IRC channel ever (Score:5, Funny)
Daniel
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Re:The Planet's Most Moronic Slashdot Post (Score:5, Funny)
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Transcript of above mentioned chatlog (Score:5, Funny)
<Cthon98> ********* see!
<AzureDiamond> hunter2
<AzureDiamond> doesnt look like stars to me
<Cthon98> <AzureDiamond> *******
<Cthon98> thats what I see
<AzureDiamond> oh, really?
<Cthon98> Absolutely
<AzureDiamond> you can go hunter2 my hunter2-ing hunter2
<AzureDiamond> haha, does that look funny to you?
<Cthon98> lol, yes. See, when YOU type hunter2, it shows to us as *******
<AzureDiamond> thats neat, I didnt know IRC did that
<Cthon98> yep, no matter how many times you type hunter2, it will show to us as *******
<AzureDiamond> awesome!
<AzureDiamond> wait, how do you know my pw?
<Cthon98> er, I just copy pasted YOUR ******'s and it appears to YOU as hunter2 cause its your pw
<AzureDiamond> oh, ok.
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Are you serious?! (Score:5, Funny)
This story reminds me of this one time when this script kiddie asked me for my IP address and I told him 127.0.0.1! Oh wait, that's because it's the same fucking story! That's because everyone has seen this done or done it themselves once in their fucking life, and nobody fucking cares.
Let me tell you another story. This one time, I was at a coffee shop, and the girl making the coffee was hot, and she said something to me, and my response was witty and cute, and she laughed and it was funny and it made me feel cool. Then I drank my coffee, went home, and masturbated.
NEWSFLASH: Nobody fucking cares!
BT
Teg Teg, tell him about the time you were witty!
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