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Battery-powered Cigarettes? 608

Roland Piquepaille writes "According to Ananova, a Swiss company has developed a totally new type of smoke-free cigarette. You will be able to use it in non-smoking restaurants, and even in airplanes -- if you care for nicotine. But the PRAVDA, from Russia, adds that the product is far from perfect. It looks like a cigarette, it's used as a cigarette, but it's not a cigarette at all. Each pseudo-cigarette consists of a replaceable 'filter' containing the nicotine, and a heating element working on a battery, recharged by the 'pack' of cigarettes. The company, NicStic, says its product is good for smokers because it doesn't contain any tar, and for non-smokers, because there is obviously not passive smoking effect. It plans to introduce the product in Germany in about a year for a price similar as normal cigarettes. This overview contains more details about this pseudo-cigarette which might be sold in the U.S. in the near future."
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  • uhh... (Score:5, Informative)

    by patrick.whitlock ( 708318 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:47PM (#10701963)
    don't they already have a nic. inhaler? called nicotrol, if im not mistaken
  • but (Score:4, Funny)

    by The Unabageler ( 669502 ) <josh@3 i o .com> on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:47PM (#10701964) Homepage
    one of the great pleasures of being a smoker is pissing off the non-smokers. I guess I'll have to eat more beans.

    oh, and first post or something.
    • Re:but (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Ionizer7 ( 814098 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:49PM (#10701993)
      You do alot more than piss off the non-smokers, you kill them. Please stop.
      • Re:but (Score:5, Funny)

        by The Unabageler ( 669502 ) <josh@3 i o .com> on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:57PM (#10702117) Homepage
        oh I'm killing them too? excellent! My plan to take over is nearly complete, only 100,000 more cartons and you should all be dead! MUAH HA HA HA HA
      • by gpinzone ( 531794 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:03PM (#10702221) Homepage Journal

        > You do alot more than piss off the non-smokers, you kill them. Please stop.

        Bullshit. [sho.com]

        • Bullshit Bullshit [bmjjournals.com]

          There is good scientific evidence that secondhand smoke exposure increases the risk of heart attack in the general population.

        • It depends (Score:5, Insightful)

          by daveo0331 ( 469843 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:37PM (#10702779) Homepage Journal
          If you're around secondhand smoke a lot, over a long period of time -- like if you're married to a smoker or you spend several years working in smoky bars or casinos or wherever -- there's a good chance this will cause some health problems of some kind. If you get a lungful of cigarette smoke once in a while as you leave a building or pull up next to a smoker at a red light or visit friends/relatives who smoke or watch movies where the characters smoke, it's not going to hurt you.

          Think of it this way: Big Macs are unhealthy. Cyanide is also unhealthy. The difference is that eating one Big Mac isn't going to kill you. Cigarettes are unhealthy like Big Macs. If you smoke, quit, and if you don't smoke, don't start. But at the same time, don't freak out over every cubic millimeter of cigarette smoke that happens to touch you.
          • Re:It depends (Score:3, Insightful)

            by gcaseye6677 ( 694805 )
            Very true. I love how some hysterical people think they're going to get lung cancer just because they go out to a smoky bar a couple of times a week for about 2-3 hours at a time. Has there ever been a documented case of this? Also, what do these people do when they're walking down the street and a city bus or a big truck passes by, emitting the same chemicals as cigarette smoke? Where is their campaign to ban vehicles? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that those types of people simply love to pok
      • Re:but (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Lord Kano ( 13027 )
        You do alot more than piss off the non-smokers, you kill them.

        I don't have a problem with being a courteous smoker, but at the same time non-smokers are getting unreasonable. I don't violate non-smoking areas. If I'm at a non-smoker's house, I'll go outside to smoke. I do my best to make sure that I stay downwind of non-smokers when I smoke outside. Anti-tobacco militants have gone off the deep end.

        For example, passing laws that make it illegal to smoke in a bar. IN A BAR FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!! Next they'll
        • Re:but (Score:3, Insightful)

          by ScrewMaster ( 602015 )
          I won't get worried until they make it illegal to smoke alcohol in bars.

          Seriously though, I've never been a smoker, and frankly I don't like the things. I really don't: I get physically ill if the smoke gets too thick. Honestly, if every smoker in the world decided, on their own, to just quit tomorrow that would be fine by me.

          However, I do object to the anti-smoking witch hunting I see going on right now. Raising taxes, making it illegal to smoke in BARS and so forth. I see this as a sort of neo-P
    • Re:but (Score:4, Funny)

      by jellomizer ( 103300 ) * on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:54PM (#10702079)
      Must... Annoy... People... At... All... Cost... ... Even... If... It... Risks... Severe... Medical... Problems... In... The... Future...
  • I really don't see an average smoker buying one of these. Many tabaco companies experimented with these years ago and failed. There is not substitute for the 'cancer stick'.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      I built a similar device while in Design School, but due to the size of available components, it looked more like an arts marker and less like the cigarrete. And it was a HUGHE SUCCES with the average smokers at school. Where, of course, the average smoker smoked ten times more hash oil and plain skunk than nicotine. The trick was keeping it just above 80C but below 90C, that way you get most of the alcaloid, but none of the easily-recognized-by-autorithies smell.
      • by Three Headed Man ( 765841 ) <.dieter_chen. .at. .yahoo.com.> on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:15PM (#10702447)
        If you're talking about plain old vaporizers, then that's different. If you're thinking of just extracting a few cannabinoids into a filter, and allowing people to inhale them, that's more like what the article is on.

        For a while, the cigarette companies experiemnted trying to make a "safer" cigarette. I saw a special on TV about it, and the one I remember involved painting pretty much pure nicotine on the inside of a glass tube along with glycerine or something else that produced harmless smoke when burned. The smoker then would play a lighter underneath the glass tube while inhaling, giving him harmless, high dosages of nicotine. The only real problem with this was you looked like a crackhead.
  • by skraps ( 650379 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:48PM (#10701973)
    Are there any interactions with the nicotine patch and gum that I use?
    Is it ok to smoke regular cigarettes and this at the same time?
    • I realize you were trying to be funny but you would not believe how many people I know smoke, chew, and use several patches all at the same time. It's like they just can't get enough.

      It's a sad state of affairs when Big Tobacco can legally sell such an addictive substance while only having to pay the measly price of some recent legal action and anti-smoking ads targeted towards those they used to target all their ads at...
      • Bah! (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Greyfox ( 87712 )
        I used to smoke. Admittedly only a pipe and pipe smokers tend to smoke less, but it's still a tobacco habit. I kicked the habit when I realized that I felt like crap the day after lighting up the pipe. Quitting nicotine was somewhat difficult but it was a cakewalk compared to caffiene (Which I still haven't been successful at.) I still want to smoke from time to time, but I absolutely can NOT function if I don't get my cuppa in the morning and lately another one in the afternoon.

        And while Tobacco's nasti

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:48PM (#10701977)
    the marijuana flavored ones?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:48PM (#10701985)
    Is there a reason why michael is constantly posting stories from Roland Piquepaille? [slashdot.org]

    Roland is just using slashdot to direct traffic to his shitty weblog, and now he even has his own domain!

    How much is michael getting on the side to plug this guy?

  • Not as cool (Score:5, Insightful)

    by arhar ( 773548 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:49PM (#10701986)
    I don't think it'll find much success, because it won't be as 'cool' as a regular cigarette. Much of th e reason people start to smoke (at the young age) is the ability to flip the ligher (in a cool way), light the cigarette (in a cool way), and exhale the smoke - in a cool way, looking like a suave motherfucker.
    • Re:Not as cool (Score:5, Insightful)

      by jellomizer ( 103300 ) * on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:51PM (#10702036)
      It is not for the punk kid who is trying to be cool. It is for the adult addict. So he can get his fix while not making the non-smokers sick, or asked to stop or they need to leave the building.
    • I think you will find it has nothing to do with cool. The tax on cigarettes has driven their price to the point where there is massively lucrative market for a substitute. This is more to do with getting addicts to fork out for a replacement fix.
    • Probably not popular for nicotine addicts,
      but I'll bet it'll be a real hit with crack and ice smokers.

      Nice and stealthy, smoke your drugs right out in public without the stigma of that nasty old crackpipe.

  • by gl4ss ( 559668 )
    hardly.

    such smokeless-'smokes' have been around for years..

    (along with gum and whatever..)

    why it's better than gum or patches? you still get to suck something tiny between your lips.
  • May not work (Score:3, Interesting)

    by metlin ( 258108 ) * on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:49PM (#10701999) Journal
    They're forgetting one of the fundamental problems - most smokers like smoking because it's more habitual. They're used to the act of having a cigarette in their hand and the act of blowing smoke.

    This cannot provide that - maybe people will use this when they fly or in places where they cannot use normal cigarettes, but is definitely not going to be a popular substitue for cigarettes.

    Besides, cigarettes have an illusion of being "cheap" and easily available. Not to mention the perceived (albeit ill-placed) "coolness factor".
    • Illusion...hey..simulation, you got something! Combine this product with a VR headset and augmented reality system, so they can blow their virtual smoke all over the place and no one is the wiser.
    • Not really (Score:4, Insightful)

      by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:00PM (#10702175)
      most smokers smoke because Nicotine is an adictive depressant. You'll find that the bulk of smokers are in high stress jobs, especially poorly paying ones. People generally don't smoke because they want to. It's something they tried as a kid, and now that they're an adult, with all the stress and misery that comes with adulthood, they can't stop.

      A better solution would be to force the tobacco companies to sell Nicotine free cigarettes. Not that they ever will. I remember a story in Wired where the only people who would grow them were the Amish. After all, what multi-national corp in its right mind would take out what makes its product popular? The funny thing is Nicotine is odorless and tasteless, so taking it out wouldn't hurt the 'cool, crisp' taste of your smokes one bit, but you might just loose your reason for smoking along the way...
      • No, the reason I said that was because I know a lot of smokers who're nicotine-dependent who could not switch to an alternative such as chewing a nicotine gum or something like that. The reason is because they are quite used to having a cigarette in their hands and the habit of smoking, that it's quite hard for them to let go of that, even if they do find alternatives for the nicotine intake.

        Your solution will never come to fruition, not just for the reasons that you mentioned but because even if the tobac
        • Most smokers I know are almost militant about their right to smoke anywhere, absolutely ignoring the irritation and harm that they cause others

          Take that sentence and do the following things:

          1. sed s/smokers/parents/
          2. sed s/smoke/bring children/
          3. sed s/harm/annoyance/

          and it's still true.

          With all the public smoking bans going up around the country, I came up with a great idea that would help non-smokers and smokers alike. Here's the idea:

          1. Smoking areas must be walled off from non-smoking areas (perhap
      • Re:Not really (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Genda ( 560240 )
        In response to a whole bunch of replies to this post and the post itself;

        Nicotine is a peculiar drug/poison. It's toxicity is extremely high. A single drop of pure nicotine place in the palm of an average adult will cause convulsions and death in minutes (the amount absorbed through the skin is more than sufficient to kill.)

        Nicotine acts as others have said, in some ways like a stimulant and in other ways like a depressant. It has been noted by neurochemists and brain physiologist to "Tune" certain br
  • by OneBigWord ( 692129 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:49PM (#10702001) Homepage
    Dude, can I bum a AA?
  • If this ever starts to take off the Anti-Smoking loby will grind it into the ground.
    • Except for the fact that this only hurts those smoking (no 2nd hand smoke) and supposibly it hurts them less (no tar).

      Also, if these packs/cigarrets are battery powered and refillable or something like that, they maybe less likely to become litter.
  • Bad idea (Score:2, Insightful)

    by jb.hl.com ( 782137 )
    Anything which reduces the health barrier to nicotine addiction is a bad thing. Period.
    • Re:Bad idea (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Iamthewalrus ( 688963 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:05PM (#10702261) Homepage
      Anything which reduces the health barrier to nicotine addiction is a bad thing. Period.

      That's a terrible position to take, unless you think that smokers somehow morally "deserve" the health problems they end up with. Obviously, if we could reduce the health effects of nicotine addiction to insignficant levels, then smoking wouldn't have to be a big deal. Even reducing them slightly might mean that those who are addicted have a better chance of living longer and more happy lives.
      How on earth could that be a bad thing?
      • Re:Bad idea (Score:3, Interesting)

        by goodydot ( 749400 )
        I smoke. I have NO DOUBTS that it's bad for me and could cause an early demise. Anybody 25 and older has known this their whole lives. Same goes for eating really fatty foods, not excercising, and drinking too much. There is no secret here, and I have never lamented that the tobacco companies have 'done this' to me. I've done it to myself, and I CHOOSE to continue. I know many people who have quit...tough as it is it can be done IF YOU WANT TO. I don't, so I smoke. So yes, in fact, I think I DESERVE
    • Re:Bad idea (Score:4, Insightful)

      by raider_red ( 156642 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:06PM (#10702289) Journal
      Anything which reduces the health barrier to nicotine addiction is a bad thing. Period.

      Why? If nicotine isn't harmful in and of itself, what's wrong with someone voluntarily using it? Nobody seems to complain about caffeine addiction after all.

  • by Marxist Hacker 42 ( 638312 ) <seebert42@gmail.com> on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:52PM (#10702043) Homepage Journal
    Can somebody explain to me how a battery, heating element, plastic case, and filter can POSSIBLY be as cheap to manufacture as dried leaves, paper, and a filter? Am I missing something here?
  • It looks like a cigarette, it's used as a cigarette, but it's not a cigarette at all.

    Kinda like the sauce with cocktail weenies. "It looks like ketchup, it tastes like ketchup, but brother, it aint ketchup."

    But seriously, isn't this just a cigarette-sized version of the old vaporizers [vaporwarehouse.com]?

  • Its been tried? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Malachi ( 5716 ) *
    Wasn't their a Discovery Health show on tobacco and all the amazing ways they have tried to fix what a smoke is to make it less bad for you and have yet to succeed in making something palatable?

    This is a bomb. People smoke because its a habitual ticking nerosis.. They like the way smoke feels entering and leaving them, ritual. Not necessarily the direct effect.

    Course its all open for debate.
    • The study that should be done on this subject would be to get a non-smoker addicted to these things and see what happens when they quit. I suspect you'd be right. They'd be all like "fucking headache" for a few days and that would be about the end of it.
    • Wasn't their a Discovery Health show on tobacco and all the amazing ways they have tried to fix what a smoke is to make it less bad for you and have yet to succeed in making something palatable?


      There's exceptions.
      Do a search for "The Swedish Effect".

      Regards,
      --
      *Art
  • Old news... (Score:5, Informative)

    by dfn_deux ( 535506 ) * <datsun510&gmail,com> on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:53PM (#10702069) Homepage
    RJ Reynolds developed a system similar to this in the late 80's and was shot down by the FDA. It seems that the FDA considered this a drug and drug delivery device and not a cigarette. Which of course means lots and lots and lots of expensive "drug" testing. However there is a japanese company that makes an electrical heating element device for normal cigarettes which supposedly "vaporizes" the nicotine for inhaltion without smoke, I wish I had a link. IIRC there was some mention of this in a PBS special many years back called "the search for a safe cigarette"...
    • At my local 7-11 even:

      Eclipse Cigarettes by RJ Reynolds [rjrt.com]

      You light it like a normal cigarette, but what you're actually lighting is a graphite rod that burns slowly and provides heat. Then then you inhale it heats up a packet of tobbaco which releases nicotine and water vapor but that's about it. (It works like a vaporizer)

      No smoke, just water vapor and a different taste, and all that sweet sweet nicotine! :)
    • Re:Old news... (Score:3, Informative)

      by JimBobJoe ( 2758 )
      The smokeless Premier cigarette played a small part in the movie Barbarians at the Gate [imdb.com] in which James Garner plays wily, crude RJR CEO F. Scott Johnson, who said I think has some of the most priceless movie quotes ever.

      At the beginning of the film, Johnson first tries the premier, which was receiving poor reviews and which was described as "tastes like shit, smells like a fart." When Johnson noted that the draw on the cigarette was wrong (difficult) and the RJR scientist said that was the "hernia effect"
  • Marijuana vaporizers [canorml.org], which heat up the pot enough to realse thc but not enough to produce much tar or smoke, have been around for a while.

    THe exciting thing about this product is that it is small enough and inconspicuous enough to use like a normal cig, but without the smoke.

    The current nictone subsitutes (gums and patches) are really expensive, so this could be a much more afordable way to help addicts stop putting gunk in their lungs.

  • Not new? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by balster neb ( 645686 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:53PM (#10702073)
    I'm not sure about the details, but I remember watching something on TV several years ago about cigarette companies in the US coming up with such a thing.

    A cigarette with no tobacco, and with this red glowing thing at the end. Looked like a real cigarette too.

    They had high hopes for it, but guess what happened? They weren't allowed to sell it, on the grounds that it was essentially a device to administer dosages of a strong drug.

    I don't remember the details, but i'm sure someone could google around and find some.
  • Diet Cigarettes (Score:2, Insightful)

    by ottergoose ( 770022 )
    I guess it was only a matter of time before fake beer and diet pop/soda got a companion.

    This sounds like a pretty cool product. I wonder how sales would be regulated here in the US... could you sell something like this to minors?
  • by mekkab ( 133181 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:56PM (#10702102) Homepage Journal
    That I'm gonna take up smoking again!

    Don't get me wrong; I'm not addicted to nicotine. I've quit hundreds of times!
  • Already Done (Score:3, Informative)

    by clinko ( 232501 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:56PM (#10702113) Journal
    Already Done, part of the reason Nabisco/RJR collapsed in the 80's

    Google
    Barbarians at the Gate: The Fall of RJR Nabisco
  • by Avian visitor ( 257765 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @02:57PM (#10702124) Homepage
    ...because there is obviously no passive smoking effect.

    1) User of this new contraption breathes a lung-full of nicotine-air mixture.

    2) Some of the nicotine from the air is deposited in user's lungs, providing whatever pleasures smokers get from it.

    3) The rest of the nicotine-air mixture (although a bit less concentrated) is expelled from user's lungs and into the surrounding atmosphere.

    4) An anonymous non-smoking bystander breathes some of the remaining nicotine that the user expelled a few moments.

    5) Some of the nicotine is deposited in his lungs against his will.

    No passive smoking effect? Yeah right...

    (I don't smoke if you haven't figured that out yet)
    • by Anonymous Coward
      You whining baby!
      Like the SUV you drive doesn't force toxic gasses into my lungs!
      If you want it to stop, either help private space companies get us the hell out of here, or move to boulder, co.
  • Eclipse (Score:2, Informative)

    by Takehiko ( 20798 )
    R.J. Reynolds tried this back in 1996 with a product called Eclipse.

    http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9606/03/cigarette/ [cnn.com]
  • by gpinzone ( 531794 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:00PM (#10702183) Homepage Journal
    While it's true that many of the carcinogens are part of the combustion process, this is still NOT a "safe" cigarette. Tobacco has LOTS and LOTS of carcinogens that are passed to the smoker. It's been so far impossible to eliminate them all.

    Tobacco's toxic properties have been well known. How does Marijuana compare?
    • It's been so far impossible to eliminate them all.

      That is why they completely elimanated the tobacco. RTFA next time before you post!!
    • It's been a while, but if I recall correctly, the last time I heard a study on it, it turned out that Marijuana smoke is much harder on your lungs than a comparable amount of cigarette smoke. However, habitual users of Marijuana don't inhale anywhere near the same amount of smoke per day that a cigarette smoker gets. So I'd say that if you're addicted to both then you're pretty well boned.
    • The smoke is bad for you, as all smoke is. However you generally inhale much less of it than with cigarettes. I mean it's not uncommon to see someone smoke 2+ packs of cigs per day, but I don't know many potheads that smoke more than 10 joints a day.

      As for the active ingrediants (nicotine vs THC) it also depends on what you mean. THC is essentially non-toxic in terms of killing you, you'd be hard pressed to OD on it. Nicotine, on the other hand, is quite toxic. However obviously, in standard concentrations
  • Nothing is safe. Fake cigarettes, near (0.05%) beer, diet soda, processed meats, fake boobs, fake politicians... Oh wait, they weren't real anyway. The politicians, I mean.
  • by Darth Muffin ( 781947 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:01PM (#10702205) Homepage
    Called the Premeir, by RJ Reynolds.

    http://www.fact-index.com/p/pr/premier_cigarette.h tml

    It failed badly. For one, consumers didn't like it. Two, it was deemed a drug delivery system and not a cigarette. That not only complicated sales from a legal distribution POV, but it meant the tobacco companies were admitting that nicotine was addictive and that they were addicting their clients, thus opening them up for lawsuits.

  • by DroopyStonx ( 683090 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:02PM (#10702208)
    I used to smoke, and I miss it.

    Seriously. It was nice and relaxing. The only reason I stopped was because, obviously, it's not that great for you.

    But at least something like this makes it so that if you want the effect of nicotine, you don't have to shell out $40 for a pack of nicotine gum.

    Yeah, nicotine isn't GOOD for you, but neither is alcohol and people still do that. At least this isn't nearly as bad as inhaling all that tar and smoke!

    There will always be a passive effect... you exhale the nicotine, surely someone near you would inhale a part of it, but still, better than cigarettes themselves.

    Good improvement!
    • Yeah, nicotine isn't GOOD for you, but neither is alcohol and people still do that. At least this isn't nearly as bad as inhaling all that tar and smoke!

      I agree wholeheartedly--getting rid of the tar, particulates, and carcinogens produced by combustion definitely goes a long way towards harm reduction.

      On the other hand, it should be noted that moderate consumption of alcohol isn't bad for most people. There is significant epidemiological data that indicates consumption of up to about one to two drinks

  • You get almost none of the ``pleasures'' of smoking, and get the stigma of being seen to smoke.

    I bet this is much bigger in Europe and Asia than in the U.S., since smoking carries less stigma over there. That's probably why it's being introduced in Germany rather than here.

  • Anyone who smokes who's concerned about the health effects of the habit really should try to quit.

    I promised three years ago that after quitting smoking I wouldn't become a preachy ex-smoker, but I don't think anyone would incredulously look upon my claim that my life is much, much better without cigarettes in it. I could go on about it ad nauseum, but I won't.
  • I wonder if I can get an AC version of that? Also, would they be marketed as 100 110s?
  • Stop relying on fags and get addicted to batteries. What will this do?

    Governments will start taxing batteries at 1800% and EVERYONE will suffer.

    Support your local smoker, friends, or else...
  • Eclipse (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Sheepdot ( 211478 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:12PM (#10702398) Journal
    I'm a smoker of Eclipse [rjrt.com] cigarettes. While I've quit and started smoking twice in my life, I've found recently that these cigarettes do not inhibit my life at all. They are essentially smokeless cigarettes, the smoke that is produced is odorless (smells like burnt paper) and doesn't come off in thick rings from the end of the cigarette as I smoke it.

    Generally speaking, innovations made in producing a 'healthy cigarette' usually involve a lot of cost, but these cigarettes are usually sold at the same price as Marborlo Lights. They also come in menthol.

    With 80% less additives, I think I'll stick to these unless the new battery-powered cigarettes actually end up cheaper.
  • by quax ( 19371 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:17PM (#10702482)
    I had cigarette smoke and my pet peeve about Germany is that you have hardly any non-smoking areas in restaurants. If this catches on it is going to make my life much more pleasant.
  • by Rooked_One ( 591287 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:18PM (#10702505) Journal
    They are called "Eclipse" cigarettes... i'm sure you can google for them.

    They aren't smokeless, but definatly noteworthy. They look like a normal cig, but have a heating element that you initially light with a lighter. I think its a carbon filament, so it burns quite hot for about 4 minutes, and while its hot, you can "smoke" the tobacco in the tube. Note that there are no ashes becuase nothing besides tobacco is burned, and the "cig" never shrinks down like a normal one. Also, when you exhale, it is quite wierd... its like you are exhaling water. The cig pack says its mostly a glycerol mix instead of the normal tar laden smoke.

  • by pair-a-noyd ( 594371 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:28PM (#10702641)
    Cigarettes STINK...
    People that smoke, STINK..
    I smoked 3 packs a day, full tilt, until the day I quit, Dec. 26, 1998..

    I smoked from the time I was 14 until I quit at 37.

    So, I'm fully qualified to BITCH at people about smoking.

    Nicotine is a poison. They used to (and may still) put it in Black Flag roach poison.
    Look it up if you don't believe me.

    And the stench is unbearable. I have several friends that smoke and when they bring their computers over for me to work on I have to leave them plugged in and running in my garage for at least two days to get the stench out of them before bringing them inside. ALL of their stuff is PISS yellow, keyboards, mice, monitors all gunked up and sticky.
    Yuck!..

    One guy just brought me his computer because the power supply burned out. Why? Smoke. The nicotine gunked up the cooling fan in the power supply so badly that it quit spinning and the power supply burned up. He's lucky, wait until the fan on his CPU does the same thing.

    The inside of his computer is DISGUSTINGLY filthy. I hate to even touch it it's so nasty.

    And when I go to any of my smoking friends houses, I have to take my clothes of in the garage and drop them straight into the washer or they will make my house stink. I have to take a shower right away after I get home, it makes my hair stink, everything. And that's just from being in the house where they smoke, and they don't smoke while I'm there!

    When they pull out some cigarettes I tell them "Oh, time for a suicide stink stick eh?"

    And for those that dip or chew tobacco, ever seen someone with mouth cancer? It's enough to make you vomit. The sight is worse than anything you would see in a horror movie.

    I hate going to the store where people throw their stinking butts on the ground, the entrance at the stores stink, it's like walking through a gas chamber just trying to get into the store..

    I think they should make tobacco totally illegal, the use, sale, growth, purchase, etc.. Get caught using tobacco, go to jail, felony, 1 year 1st offense.
    Get caught selling tobacco, charge, attempted murder, penalty, DEATH. 1st offense..

    • Every word of the parent is true.

      I smoked an average of one pack a day from age 11 until February 10, 2002.

      My children visit their grandmother's house and I wash their clothes IMMEDIATELY after then come home. I can smell tobacco smoke on them in a strong breeze. I am constantly bothering my mom about quitting.

      There is nothing good than can be said about smoking that can counter the bad shit that can be said about smoking.

  • by jimkski ( 304659 ) on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @03:33PM (#10702719)
    John Katz disappears and Roland appears to fill his place.

    As you know, nature abhors a vacuum...

  • Pravda?!! (Score:3, Funny)

    by mi ( 197448 ) <slashdot-2017q4@virtual-estates.net> on Tuesday November 02, 2004 @04:53PM (#10703831) Homepage Journal
    Since when is it acceptable to quote the dirty and blood soaked Russian Communist party rag in a decent publication?

    And no, this is not a troll...

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