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KDE 3.2.1 Released 335

TheSurfer writes "The KDE project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.2.1, a maintenance release for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes. KDE 3.2.1 ships with lot of bug fixes since KDE 3.2 and is available in 49 languages (now including Bengali, Icelandic, Japanese, Lithuanian, Low Saxon, Latin Serbian and Tajik). Sources and contributed packages are linked on the KDE 3.2.1 info page."
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KDE 3.2.1 Released

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  • Aha (Score:5, Funny)

    by stratjakt ( 596332 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:21PM (#8514536) Journal
    Now we know why the government needed that 2.5TB chunk of RAM.

  • another link (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:21PM (#8514542)
    another lews link with coverage here [osviews.com]
  • Low Saxon (Score:5, Funny)

    by guacamolefoo ( 577448 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:22PM (#8514552) Homepage Journal
    You know, I've really been holding out on using KDE because it didn't support Law Saxon. What a relief.

  • by kfg ( 145172 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:23PM (#8514561)
    It supports Elvish.

    Klingon, however, has already been determined to be "silly."

    KFG
  • The Mandrake curse? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Akai ( 11434 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:24PM (#8514563) Homepage Journal
    Poor Mandrake, seems like every time they go gold on a release one of the major components gets a major upgrade :)
    • by Simon ( 815 ) <.simon. .at. .simonzone.com.> on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:38PM (#8514726) Homepage
      Except for the fact that 10.0 has heavily patched KDE 3.2.0 packages which are almost 3.2.1. My KDE here is at package version 3.2-70mdk, 70 meaning that it is the *70th* version of this package. i.e. it has been patched and rebuild roughly *70 times.

      Try:

      rpm -q -changelog libkdebase4 | less

      Oh, Mandrake hasn't gone gold either. The boxed version will go gold in May as I understand it.

      Mandrake's luck isn't _that_ bad. :) They're even coming out of Chapter 11 too.

      --
      Simon
    • by imr ( 106517 )
      They didnt go gold, only the comunity went out. Not that it means that kde3.2.1 will be in the final. It Would be a nice move tho', since some of those bugs are really bothering.
    • Is it a curse, or just a factor of having an insane (in a good way) release schedule. You can hardly turn around without them offering a new version, with all of the then-current bells and whistles. So the latest stable release doesn't have the most bleeding edge components -- just wait a couple months.
    • by phoxix ( 161744 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:45PM (#8514801)
      Poor Mandrake, seems like every time they go gold on a release one of the major components gets a major upgrade :)

      Not true:

      First, Mandrake 10.0 was NOT the final release, it was the community release. The final release of Mandrake 10.0 (due soonish) will have all the fixes and whatever else is desired.

      Secondly (don't quote me on this), but I believe many of Mandrake's KDE 3.2 packages have the various patches needed to make it a better desktop all around.

      Sunny Dubey
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:24PM (#8514569)
    the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes
    Please don't put such things on the main page, we have enough boring flame wars already...
    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:33PM (#8514659)
      Do you mind? We're in the middle of a vi versus Emacs debate here.
    • by Shut the fuck up! ( 572058 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:38PM (#8514725)
      Please don't put such things on the main page, we have enough boring flame wars already...

      Oh, so you're one of those holier-than-thou anti-flamewar fanatics, huh? Well, I personally think flamewars rock. We need more of them. I could use a good mysql flamewar right now.
    • Why not? Free Software isn't allowed to do any marketing? What so the people at KDE shouldn't be proud of their work? They should say "one of many Desktop Environments but really Gnome might be better?". Gimme a break pal.

      KDE has every right to say their software is the best. By all rights it IS the best Free Desktop for GNU/Linux or any Unix. I'd even argue its superior to the closed source OS X but that's a whole other ball of wax.

      It isn't a flame from the KDE camp, its A)marketing and B) mostly based i
  • by stratjakt ( 596332 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:24PM (#8514571) Journal
    Hail from every rooftop!

    Some bugs are fixed!

    • Well, I was looking for some updated .rpms this afternoon and noticed then that 3.2.1 was available.

      It has sorted all of the problems that were previously annoying me. The only (very minor) problem is that I had to de-install kdenetwork3-chat to install some of the new packages. The package kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger seems to have replaced it.

      No new bugs so far.
      Your mileage may vary.
    • I can't believe you have two +5 Funny comments on the same story.

      You trying to become a karma god? ::) Or have you just perfected the jokes that /. finds funny?
      • I can't believe you have two +5 Funny comments on the same story.

        You trying to become a karma god? ::) Or have you just perfected the jokes that /. finds funny?

        Of course, keeping in mind that funny mods no longer add to karma, I think moderators are more willing to throw around funny mods.

  • Hmmmm (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:25PM (#8514577)
    I bet the person who posted the release was all like , "3.....2.....1.....NOW!" when he posted it.
  • I can understand it being front page news if a significant project like KDE releases a significant release, but seriously why does a maintenance release make it to the front page?

    I released POPFile v0.21.0 [sourceforge.net], perhaps I should have submitted a story?

    And while we're it at, could we stop with the posturing "the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux".

    John.

  • by Gandalfar ( 599790 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:27PM (#8514601)
    And most of it is already in unstable branch. Great work KDE and Debian KDE team! :)
    • go debian kde team!

      you guy(s) rock!

  • Well then! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Loki_1929 ( 550940 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:27PM (#8514603) Journal
    You know, I always thought KDE was a bloated, ugly, slow GUI, but now that it's available in Icelandic; well I guess it's alright!

    (relax, it's called a joke)

  • Latin Serbian!?!?! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by LenE ( 29922 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:31PM (#8514639) Homepage
    That should read Croatian. Serbian is Cyrillic. Unless, Croatian is already a supported language, then this would be more like a redneck dialect.

    -- Len
    • Related to a serb by marriage...the language indeed is written using cyrillic letters, but is also commonly written using the roman alphabet. I see a lot of hand-written things around my sister's house that use my native alphabet but that I can't read--and I can read russian. the cyrillic alphabet the serbs use indeed has a few characters different from the russian alphabet.

      probably too much useless info, though...
    • by emir ( 111909 ) on Wednesday March 10, 2004 @09:22AM (#8520158)
      Nah you are the one that is wrong :)

      It is latin serbian. Once long time ago (before 1991) there was a language called Serbo-Croatian. It was one of three official languages (beside slovenian and macedonian) in Yugoslavia. When Yugoslavia vanished in 1991 so did the serbo-croatian. In Croatian it is croatian, in Serbia it is serbian, in Bosnia it is bosnian. It could be argued that all these languages are still one same language but as people prefer to have "seperate" languages they should be allowed to do so. Differences are not that great but generally differences are following: prefered way of writing:

      Bosnia: latin
      Croatia: latin
      Serbia: cyrillic

      (note that you can write serbian in latin if you want and croatian and bosnian in cyrillic if you want)


      amount of foreign words (notably of turkish origin) in serbia and bosnia are much greater than in croatia. thus neighbour would be spellt as.
      Bosnia:komsija
      Croatia: susjed
      Serbia: komsija

      susjed is proper word of south slavic origin. (note that there are people in serbia that say susjed, but majority use komsija. and vice versa for croatia)


      other big difference is that people in croatia and bosnia use so called "ijekavski" dialect while people in serbia use "ekavski" dialect. Difference is that some 1000-2000 words in serbia are spellt and pronounced with only e while in croatia and bosnia they are spellt with ije. Kinda like color and colour in american and brittish english. Example:

      English: flower | milk
      Bosnia: cvijet | mlijeko
      Croatia: cvijet | mlijeko
      Serbia: cvet | mleko
      (note there is even third dialect that is spoken in some part of croatia which is called "ikavski". where cvijet would be pronounced and spellt as "cvit" and milk as "mliko")


      Third difference is heavy use of h in bosnia.

      English: rotten | coffe
      Bosnian: truhlo | kahva
      Croatian: trulo | kava
      Serbian: trulo | kafa



      There are other small differences but they are too small to be mentioned here. Thus it should be called latin Serbian, if you use all words and spellings that people in serbia usually use but spell it with latin.....

  • Fixed?! (Score:4, Funny)

    by contrasutra ( 640313 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:31PM (#8514640) Journal
    KHTML: fix animated GIFs not looping (#72953)

    Oh c'mon, that was my FAVORITE bug! Who was the dork who filed this bug report? ;-)

    KMix: Properly save volumes on exit so volumes are correctly restored on next login.

    Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.
    • Personally I just had alsacntl set it for me once and called it good.

      But if you liked changing you volume settings via the kpanel applet a lot that would be annoying.
    • KHTML: fix animated GIFs not looping (#72953)
      Oh c'mon, that was my FAVORITE bug! Who was the dork who filed this bug report? ;-)

      Damn! I have been specifically unable them for months and it didnt work!!??
      Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.
      Well, they thought it was an alsa bug, so they tried to learn how to use alsa, then they tried to put all those obscure options in obscure alsa proc entries they found on "users" forums, then they go
    • Re:Fixed?! (Score:5, Funny)

      by KingJoshi ( 615691 ) <slashdot@joshi.tk> on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @07:31PM (#8515260) Homepage

      KMix: Properly save volumes on exit so volumes are correctly restored on next login.

      Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.

      Can you imagine, logged into KDE on your laptop in a lab or library somewhere in the back, taking a break, watching some porn with the volume off. So, next day, you think the volume is still off and when you start the video, the whole room hears some girl screaming, "Yeah, fuck me harder!" again and again.

      And you think this isn't an important bug to fix? :)

    • Re:Fixed?! (Score:3, Interesting)

      by foonf ( 447461 )

      KMix: Properly save volumes on exit so volumes are correctly restored on next login.

      Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.


      Standard behavior for most distributions is to save/restore sound settings at system halt/startup in the init scripts. So it is not exactly normal for the desktop or any other program to handle this itself, and I would guess that only a small minority of KDE users actually require KMix to work in this way. Which is p
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:32PM (#8514652)
    I am running KDE 3.2 right now on my Gentoo Linux box. A really good upgrade from KDE 3.1. Its like switching from Jaguar to Panther in Mac terms, or Windows 95 to 98 in Windows terms. It looks mostly like KDE 3.1, but its so much faster and the GUI has been cleaned up a bit (no more bloated interfaces, but still with all the features, what do you gnomers say now?)

    Fluxbox fans will like that you can now configure kde to switch virtual desktops in kde by using the scroll wheel, and the new Plastik theme looks good. I use it for my Window Border, but I still like the kermick style better. So if you are stuck using KDE 3.1 or less, then get your distro to upgrade. I will probably be emerging this release tomorrow.
    • I use kde and really like it but the speed issue is not fixed yet. I was hoping to see this great speedup in 3.2 but to be honest for me it runs the same as 3.1. Startup on login takes the same time. There is some noticable improvement in startup times for some applications but nothing spectacular. Everything else though is great. The menus are cleaned up and there are many small usability improvements.
    • Here I am trying to compiled 3.2, and it stopped, I was using -j2 makeopts, and there was a race condition. Now I have to sync, and recompile for 3.2.1. (This is on Sparc too)
  • announced the immediate availability of

    What is the difference between the "availablility" and the "immediate availability" of a product?

    Is it like the "closing down sale" and the "genuine closing down sale"? Or like the "additional 20% discount on top of our normal 30% discount"?

    If it's available, it's immediatly available. If it is not immediatly available, it's not available.
  • by GirTheRobot ( 689378 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:43PM (#8514777)
    I just finished updating my Gentoo box to the current release....now another 2 days of compiling!!! oh well, i love watching the text scroll by anyway...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:45PM (#8514804)
    1) Now free of SCO-patented /* Komment Tags */

    2) For additional speed, Kuickshow now opens images you thought you wanted to preview.

    3) Konqueror now has strings-searchable "Internet Explorer coders are weenies" easter egg.

    4) KDevelop now Kompiles with the option to make klean instead of clean.

    5) Renamed the "Local Area Network Manager" to KLAN

    6) GUI Konstruct-Icons now replaced by Dinobots
  • by ColonelPanic ( 138077 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @06:46PM (#8514814)
    Erewhay isay Igpay Atinlay?
  • bug flood (Score:5, Informative)

    by Marco Krohn ( 254334 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @07:17PM (#8515118)

    And with this new release a new flood of bugs coming in

    KDE weekly bug report summary [kde.org]

    Please double check when reporting a bug that it really isn't a duplicate. Also be sure to send in backtraces only if you have compiled with debug information. Every bad bug report just costs the developers valueable time which is badly needed for all the features coming with 3.3:

    KDE 3.3 features [kde.org]
    KDEPIM 3.3 features [kde.org]

    If you want to help with an even better 3.3 your help in the KDE Quality team [kde.org] is welcome!


    KDE, rock on :-)
  • by Marco Krohn ( 254334 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @07:51PM (#8515445)
    Except helping in KDE Quality Team [kde.org] or supporting it in various other ways there is a simple thing you can do within a couple of minuts which really help: write an email!

    Start one of the many good KDE applications, go to the "help menu" and click on the "about box"->"authors". Pick one or two of them and write them a short email telling them how much you like their application and that you really appreciate what they are doing for us, the open source community.

    It's easy and makes them very happy to hear from satisfied users--normally they just hear about it when something is wrong and sending some nice words really keeps them motivated. Thanks.

  • For you Debian users (Score:3, Informative)

    by LittleLebowskiUrbanA ( 619114 ) on Tuesday March 09, 2004 @10:15PM (#8516827) Homepage Journal
    This worked for me.

    apt-get -t unstable install kdebase

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