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Mandrake 9.2 ISOs Available 437

Posted by jamie from the firmware dept.
joestar writes "Since LG has released updated firmwares and a recovery procedure for all so-called ATAPI LG cd-rom drives that were "destroyed" by a feature of Mandrake 9.2, MandrakeSoft has publicly released the set of Mandrake 9.2 ISO images which are now available on a number of FTP mirrors. Mandrake 9.2 is one of the few remaining 100%-OSS major Linux distributions, so considering a MandrakeClub membership or joining Cooker - Mandrake's open development version - is certainly an excellent idea." Here's the feature list.
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  • But their computer components leave something to be desired.

    What im grappling with is whether this is actually some form of Hardware Darwinism...

  • Good Bye Redhat! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Bill, Shooter of Bul ( 629286 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:13PM (#7475802) Journal
    Redhat doesn't want my busness anymore, so it looks like a perfect time to try mandrake.

    • Re:Good Bye Redhat! (Score:4, Interesting)

      by AppyPappy ( 64817 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:22PM (#7475878)
      Drake is the easiest to install and use. It's fat as a hog and eats memory like a PacMan machine but it will get you where you need to be. I do all my unix stuff on consoles at work and all my X stuff in Drake at home. I find it to be a perfect fit. I refer to it as Newbie Linux.
      • How is installing Mandrake any easier than installing the distro formally known as Redhat, aka Fedora?

        How is using Mandrake any easier than using Fedora?

        Somehow I have the impression that you are just saying things without basis in fact. I can do an entirely automatic desktop install of Fedora. Pop in the CD, keep clicking next, reboot, and bam! A working Linux desktop.

    • Re:Good Bye Redhat! (Score:5, Informative)

      by mahdi13 ( 660205 ) <icarus.lnx@gmail.com> on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:23PM (#7475890) Journal
      Redhat doesn't want my busness anymore, so it looks like a perfect time to try mandrake.

      or Fedora
      or Gentoo
      or Debian
      or SuSE (ftp install)
      or Slackware
      or Vector
      or Knoppix
      or one of the thousands of others [distrowatch.com]

    • Re:Good Bye Redhat! (Score:4, Insightful)

      by The_Unforgiven ( 521294 ) <mike&xoti,org> on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:24PM (#7475907) Homepage
      What business?

      Your usage of bandwidth?

      I mean, I use redhat too, but I'm not under the illusion that I'm doing them a favor in doing so.

      The $60 I spent on one release (7.2 I think) hardly makes up for the Gigabytes of data transfer I used when I downloaded about what? 3 other releases?
      • I'm very dissappointed in Red Hat because I've purchased every single one of their releases since 6.2, with one exception - 8.0.

        • Me too (Score:2, Interesting)

          by Anonymous Coward
          5.1, 5.2, 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, 9.0

          I bought all of those shrink-wrapped boxes, because Redhat Linux was a lot easier to set up and use, than if you were to do a Linux From Scratch setup. Redhat is still free (as in freedom), but it's a little more expensive now, because people like me who support quality, supported free software have to pick up the slack for the freeloaders. This whole thing is bad news for the freeloaders, who are now left with the orphan child that is Fedora (or they can

    • Re:Good Bye Redhat! (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Ozric ( 30691 )
      Redhat was never a good desktop distro. I swithed from Redhat to Mandrake because KDE back in the 5.1 days. Anyway I run Gentoo now and am very happy. YMMV but Mandrake is a WAY BETTER desktop IMHO. Redhat is good for servers tho, but I am leaning to Gentoo for that as well these days.
  • Given that the ftp servers are getting pretty whacked, a link to a .torrent would be very welcome.

    • Re:How about a .torrent? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:14PM (#7475812)
      http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent
      • Excellent - thank you! I'm currently doing my bit - download speed is about half my upload, which is maxed out (on a 512/256Kbps ADSL line).

        This'll be the third distro I've tried in almost as many days. Despite being a long-time 'drake user, when I heard about the problem, I thought it perhaps best to try another distro (I have an LG drive myself).

        Gentoo came with 49 pages of installation instructions. 49. Now, I'm no newbie - my first Linux install was Slackware 3.something back in '97. I downloaded it a
    • pulling 212k/s currently from the above torrents. my saviors!

  • OSS distributions? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Rinikusu ( 28164 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:14PM (#7475811)
    Pardon me for the stupid question, but what does that comment regarding "few OSS distributions remaining" mean? I can see how "few remaining COMMERCIAL distros" would apply, but last I checked, there are thriving gentoo, debian, and even LFS communities out there, not to mention slackware, all those debian based LIVE CD distros, and hell, even FEDORA. What exactly is the poster's intent by that comment?

    • Re:OSS distributions? (Score:4, Funny)

      by mahdi13 ( 660205 ) <icarus.lnx@gmail.com> on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:17PM (#7475836) Journal
      What exactly is the poster's intent by that comment?

      Probably still bitter that SCO canceled Calandra...
    • Did you miss the word "major"?
      • I certainly would call Slackware, Debian, and Gentoo "major distributions." Slackware has been around for, what, 300 years, and Debian nearly so. Slack was actually one of the first distros I used.

        Gentoo, while still not as widely known, was #1 on DistroWatch for quite some time, and sits at #5 as I type this. Sure, "Damn Small" and "MEPIS" are the number 8 and 9 spots, respectively, so top-10 membership isn't exactly a determining factor in "major."

        But then what does "major" really mean? Knoppix (#3

        • Re:OSS distributions? (Score:3, Insightful)

          by RPoet ( 20693 )
          Gentoo may be great (I actually think saying otherwise is a federal offence), but you can't evade the fact that it pretty much doesn't care about software freedom. It's so easy to install unfree nvidia or ATI drivers (the ebuilds are all integrated), and I think even the install docs hint at how to install them. This complete lack of division between free and unfree is one of the things that seriously drove me to Fedora. I sleep better at nights now. (So what, laugh at me, go on)

    • Re:OSS distributions? (Score:2, Informative)

      by jonbryce ( 703250 )
      He means one of the only 100% free software distros remaining. The only other two I'm aware of are Fedora - not yet at release stage, and GNU/LinEx, a spannish distro.

      Most of the other distros contain things like Pine, Netscape, the Flash Plugin, Real Player and Sun's Java packages. None of these are free software.
        • debian includes non-free in the default distro does it not?
          • debian includes non-free in the default distro does it not?

            No.. Debian asks if you want apt to pull in software from the non-free archive. The funny thing is that non-free in Debian is filled with things that most other distros call free software. Qmail, malestrom, mpg123, povray, etc. RMS made the mistake before of assuming GNU/LinEx was applying the same standards of freeness as Debian and had eliminated the non-free section. In reality they moved some non-free software into the main archive.
    • It's very easy: Red Hat has dropped support for it's Free Software Linux distribution, and wants Fedora to be the replacement for Red Hat Linux as you know it. SuSE is not an OSS Linux distribution. Slack is dying :-( Now your choice for major Linux distribs is: Debian or Mandrake. And maybe Knoppix in the future.
      • SuSE is not an OSS Linux distribution.

        My SuSE 9.0 DVD with the source to ALL the software in the SuSE Linux distro, yes ... including the YaST source code, begs to differ.
      • You forgot Gentoo. It's major, at least in the sense that it adds real innovation to the distro idea and garners a lot of attention.
      • Tell that to the machine I'm writing this on. Running the shiny new slack 9.1. Dying my ass...

        Nice troll tho!

    • Considering that RMS seems to think even Debian isn't really a Free Software(tm) distro, I find it difficult to image that Mandrake qualifies.

      On the 9.2 comparison chart [mandrakesoft.com] you can clearly see that every version of Mandrake other than the Download edition includes plenty of proprietary software.

      Take a look at the M's in Debian's non-free section [debian.org] and compare it to Mandrake's package list. [mandrakelinux.com]

      Don't get me wrong. Most of what I know about GNU/Linux I learned on Mandrake. Implying that it's the last of the

      • Re:OSS distributions? (Score:4, Informative)

        by msimm ( 580077 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @05:11PM (#7476793) Homepage
        Don't get me wrong. Most of what I know about GNU/Linux I learned on Mandrake. Implying that it's the last of the free software distros is comical though.

        The downloadable version is free, as in unencombered. Thats important. I think its also important that as much as we complain here about everything we try to give credit where credit is due. Heres a simple quote [linux-mandrake.com] from the Mandrake website:

        "All improvements and add-ons introduced by MandrakeSoft are published under the General Public License (GPL)."

        So I think calling their software free isn't very missleading at all. Including packages with none OSI certified lisences is nothing to crow about when they've made both their distribution and contributed code free.

        This is the only company I know of that actually puts its money (and its business model) where its mouth is (and it might even work [slashdot.org]).

  • OSS Linux Distributions (Score:5, Insightful)

    by amcnabb ( 682951 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:15PM (#7475814) Homepage
    Mandrake 9.2 is one of the few remaining 100%-OSS major Linux distributions.

    Whatever happened to Gentoo, Debian, and Fedora? The only major distribution that isn't completely open source is SuSe.
    • 100%? Really?

      I was going to mention Slackware, but that includes Netscape so it's not 100% open source (if you want to be picky about it). I was under the impression that -no- distribution was 100% open source (even Debian provides "non-free" packages from various FTP sites). Is Mandrake really 100% OSS, or was the submitter mistaken?
    • I think the point that was intended was that Mandrake is one of the few remaining 100% OSS major Linux distributions geared towards novices.

      Fedora counts, but not Gentoo or Debian. Of course, the word in question is "few," not "only."

    • Anacronym hell! OSS = Open Source Software. OSS = Open Sound System which is in itself OSS .... my head hurts!

      What I really wanted to say was that RedHat always struck me as about 95% OSS becuase they used things like commercial OSS drivers ... ok that's it, I'm going to lie down!

    • I think he meant.. (Score:3, Informative)

      by msimm ( 580077 )
      Major commercial distribution. Gentoo, Debian and Fedora are great, but for a commercial player Mandrake has been a surprisingly upstanding member of the OSS community. Not only in keeping Mandrake free (as in beer and freedom) but actively using alternative funding [mandrakelinux.com] methods in an attempt to reasonably sustain that freedom (in a commercail marketplace).

      I've got a lot of respect for that.
  • I'm so glad they got this fixed, and I hope this whole sorry incident can be swept right under the rug. I've always said that Mandrake would be the distro to cause MS users to seriously consider switching. I started my Linux oddysey on Mandrake (hell, I still use it!) and fully believe that it offers the widest spectrum of a Linux experience.

    The average user can get it working right out of the box (or download). That's something you can't say for most Linux installs -- or even some Windows installs. The h
    • While I agree with most of what you say, I honestly feel that "Linux's best hope for widespread adoption" will be a live CD which allows people to boot up, see that things are going to work and then allows them install it from the liveCDs gui. Either that or a few major hardware manufacturers shipping with Linux by default (even if it is dual booting). Mandrake doesn't have a liveCD derivative out there does it (I know it has the tools [linuxminicd.org] to build one, but no community nor Mandrake are building one that I
      • While I agree with most of what you say, I honestly feel that "Linux's best hope for widespread adoption" will be a live CD which allows people to boot up, see that things are going to work and then allows them install it from the liveCDs gui.

        I really don't consider this a good way of installing, for a number of reasons (like increased minumum hardware requirements, greater possibilities for someone to trojan the installation, limitations on what you can choose or not choose, etc).

        IMHO, Live CDs are curr

  • 3 cheers for usable software! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by dowobeha ( 581813 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:17PM (#7475837)
    I think other distros need to look to Mandrake as the leader it is in making free software easy-to-use. Mandrake's distro isn't perfect, but it has come a long way in helping me to enjoy my Linux use.

    Off to join MandrakeClub... :)

  • BitTorrent (Score:5, Informative)

    by Youssef Adnan ( 669546 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:22PM (#7475882) Homepage
    BitTorrent link from Mandrake. It's located on the download page right before the FTP mirror list:
    http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent [mandrakelinux.com]

  • Installer (Score:5, Funny)

    by S.I.O. ( 180787 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:23PM (#7475887)
    1 LG CD-ROM drive detected.
    Would you like to pray for it?

    • Re:Installer (Score:2, Funny)

      by CFBMoo1 ( 157453 )
      Registration Wizard:

      Now go and sign up for the Mandrake Club you silly computer user or I shall taunt your CD-ROM a second time!

      *Open and Close the CD door a few times to rasberry the user*

  • Now taking bets.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by rylin ( 688457 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:24PM (#7475905)
    Slashdot headline in 20 minutes: Mandrake 9.2 ISOs No Longer Available.
  • Does this re-release contain all those updates to other packages that they released for 9.2 earlier?
  • Does anyone know if these new ISOs will contain the patches that have come out since the last ISOs were released? It would be a waste of bandwidth to have to download them again.
    • Well, I just downloaded the md5sums for what was just released and compared it to the iso's I downloaded through Mandrake Club when it was first released and they match. So I guess nothing has changed as far as the iso's are concerned.

  • Running it since day 1 (Score:5, Informative)

    by tickticker ( 549972 ) <tickticker@gm[ ].com ['ail' in gap]> on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:29PM (#7475947) Journal
    As a club member [mandrakeclub.com], I've been running it on several machines of various configurations. Here's a brief take of the 30 installs on 10 machines:

    - I can't unplug my Dell 5800 laptop while running or it locks up, same with plugging it in while running. Working on the cause.
    - BE SURE to check your MD5 sums. I've had more bad disks with this release than the last 3 or so releases combined. One bad disk would not only fail to install a package, but would break and remove several others unless the offending package was removed. Then voila! the broken packages return to the menus and functionality.
    - Handles 3d hardware acceleration fine for my ATI 9500 card, but no 3d for my 9700 pro (5 install attempts and dozens of fixes) I will not give up... Must..get...CWET...working.
    - K3b is the default burning software, so just change your cd drives to ide-scsi and save yourselves some headaches over "unusable" drives
    - Mandrake-galaxy is a theme that actually appeals to me. And I generally can't stand themes no matter the platform.

    Other than these major points, I think this is the best Mandrake yet. I can't wait for kde 3.2 and the 2.6 kernal. I'm just not feeling that adventurous yet.... but i will soon.

    --sigs are like giraffes, they can look cool sometimes, but they don't make any noise.

    • Handles 3d hardware acceleration fine for my ATI 9500 card, but no 3d for my 9700 pro (5 install attempts and dozens of fixes) I will not give up... Must..get...CWET...working.

      Try XFree86 CVS HEAD version, or look at the latest snapshots from XFree86 or mirrors.

    • Boot with nolapic (Score:3, Informative)

      by buchanmilne ( 258619 )
      I can't unplug my Dell 5800 laptop while running or it locks up, same with plugging it in while running. Working on the cause.

      Broken local APIC. Boot with 'nolapic' to workaround it.

      Handles 3d hardware acceleration fine for my ATI 9500 card, but no 3d for my 9700 pro (5 install attempts and dozens of fixes) I will not give up... Must..get...CWET...working.

      There are updated ATI driver packages on the Club, you may want to try those.
  • Here's the torrent:

    http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent [mandrakelinux.com]

    Make with the downloading...I'm only getting 160k/sec so far :-)
  • -they would release the ISO the day -after- we finally got our PowerPack edition through the mail. Go fig... :)

    Now, to see about talking my manager into having us join the Mandrake Club....

  • Mandrake user confusion... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by DeionXxX ( 261398 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @03:32PM (#7475975)
    As a "power-user" I really don't like how Mandrake hides so many settings from me. Like I installed Mandrake on a laptop with a USB Network dongle and I needed for Mandrake to wait until the laptop had loaded the drivers for USB before doing the network settings. I could not figure it out though! No where in the settings could I tell it to wait and tell it when to set up the network. Each bootup I had to go back into the CLI and type in ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 in order to get my network up.

    Its just little things like that, that need to be ironed out of Mandrake and I think it'll be a great OS. As a Windows user, I sort of expect stupid crap like that to work correctly. I love the power *nix OS's give me, but I'd rather not have to deal with these silly configuration issues. I think thats the biggest drawback with Mandrake and all other Desktop *NIX's. When dealing with server software like Apache, PHP, MySQL, Perl, etc... everything seems to work together seamlessly, but in the Desktop... it feels like each piece of software is in a different universe.

    :-)

    -- D3X

    NeoX3.com: The ONE, the Only, the First truly FREE Adult entertainment site... [ I'm Serious ] [neox3.com]
    • Its just little things like that, that need to be ironed out of Mandrake and I think it'll be a great OS.

      Indeed, but no-one is going to iron it out if it isn't reported.

      This looks like a hotplug/coldplug issue. Does it come up if you boot up, remove the dongle and plug it back in?

      It looks like this [mandrakesoft.com] ight be your bug. Please subscribe to it, and/or add any additional info that would help use fix it.

      Another issue may just be that the modules aren't loaded, you can hack around this by adding the necessary
  • But can I install it to my SATA RAID-0 array? Typically these distros include modules, but NOT on the boot disk/kernel, therefore I can't install to a RAID array. Anyone try this?
    • Most SATA chipsets need proprietary (ie, they provide sources which are wrappers for a binary object which they don't supply the source for) drivers.

      This means that no-one can legally distribute these drivers with a kernel without violating the GPL.

      However, if you want, I can build binary modules for you, any you can stick them on a floppy and have them loaded during installation (before hard disk detection). You would possibly still need to copy them to the drive before booting the machine (I haven't tri
  • Heres my brief review of my Mandrake 9.2. I was going to write up a big review of my whole experience of upgrading but this story came up to soon. So here goes...

    The installer is hands down the best installer for Linux I have ever used. They've managed to improve it quite alot from 9.1, it asks me less questions and just plain works. I noticed there is only *1* advertisement show during installation. I'm sure most of you would be happy about this, I think it's kinda sad because this has to be bad for Mandr
  • The question that most Mandrake to-be users are asking: Do the new 9.2 ISOs that have been released include the 300MB of updates so far, or just the new kernel RPMS? Anyone know? It's not mentioned on Mandrake's site, though downloading after the fact isn't a huge problem.
  • I am posting this because, believe it or not, there are a lot of /. readers that have no experience with Linux but are curious to try.

    I am one if the inexperienced Linux users. I tried several distros and the one that was hands down the easiest to deploy from the noob prospective was Mandrake.

    My first try was with release 8.0. I loved the installer and the docs available for learning to setup my machine for dual boot and proper Linux partitions.

    The installer is a work of art. It made the installation
    • "My plea to anyone who has never tried Linux but is curious is to try Mandrake. It's the most noob friendly distro around."

      The funniest thing about this is that so many Linux advocates are too arrogant to admit this, as if Mandrake doesn't heighten their nerd level enough. Mandrake is a great thing. It really is Linux....made..easy! And after you install it and get things running, feel free to rip it apart to suit your needs if you are a 1007 H@X0r.

      I agree with you 100%, there is no shame in running Ma

  • Core Dump (Score:3, Insightful)

    by DeadBugs ( 546475 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @05:36PM (#7476969) Homepage
    Well since Fedora Core 1 failed to load, I will happily dump it in favor of Mandrake.

    As far as why Fed would not load, it failed to regonize my Kyro video card & onboard Ethernet.

    This system was running Mandrake 9.0

    Viva Le Mandrake

  • I use it (Score:3, Informative)

    by praedor ( 218403 ) on Friday November 14, 2003 @06:10PM (#7477254) Homepage

    I just upgraded from 9.1 to 9.2. First thing, it is still nice but there are some bugs in the system right off the bat, primarily concerning KDE. You will immediately want to download the updates to fix them. You will likely experience some problems with kmenu items. Updating fixes it. If you have an LG cdrom, download the fixes from the mandrake website. It apparently isn't mandrake's fault, this problem, but they have a fix.


    There are a LOT of updates. If you have a modem connection...it's going to take a while. I downloaded all the updates to my laptop over my job's ethernet connection so they would be on hand immediately after installing 9.2 on both my laptop and desktop. I suggest something like this for others with modem connections at home.


    After the updates, no problems at all.

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