3D Visualization of Linux Kernel Development

Tonetheman writes "Here is a neat link that will let you take a 3D tour of the linux kernel source code tree. The MPEG shows how the differeny parts of the source tree are linked... sort of if you have a good imagination. Cool stuff though!"

3D Tour for Windows Kernel Code? ;-)

[ChaoticChaos]

Would a 3D tour of the Windows kernel code take you through the seedy parts of town? ;-)

Re:3D Tour for Windows Kernel Code? ;-)

[rem1313]

How would a 3D animation look on slashdot dupes? :)

story on march 8 [slashdot.org]

Re:3D Tour for Windows Kernel Code? ;-)

[Pike65]

Hmm, and I can't help noticing it's from the do-you-see-what-i-see dept.

Yeah. Seen it already, thanks. Do you see what I see? Down the bottom of the page there you'll find a search box . . .

Just when I though Taco was doing better on the dupes as well.

Re:3D Tour for Windows Kernel Code? ;-)

[fforw]

How would a 3D animation look on slashdot dupes?

repetitive..

Re:3D Tour for Windows Kernel Code? ;-)

[SpatialJ]

How would a 3D animation look on slashdot dupes? :)

maybe like this [spatialknowledge.com] ;-)

hrm

[kaoticus]

Swear I've seen this before..... :-/

Re:hrm

[SoSueMe]

After 12 hours between articles, you would think it should be something new.

No submissions, perhaps?

hey, it's 3d

[Kircle]

Swear I've seen this before..... :-/

hey, this is 3d. you're probably just seeing it from a different perspective. ;)

dupe?

[lazybeam]

wasn't this posted a few days ago?

Again?

[Bull999999]

I remember seeing an article like this on /. before...

Re:Again?

[bheerssen]

Hey, man, they went 25 hours without a story. They had to do something.

Re:Again?

[bheerssen]

oops 12 hours.

Moral of this story: never post until your caffeine/sugar level has been adjusted. Next time I'll finish my coffee first. I promise.

Great to start of sunday with a DUPE!

[Kr3m3Puff]

I even saw this one in the Amazing Future! but couldn't stop it...

Dope here [slashdot.org]. Thanks for playing!

Re:Great to start of sunday with a DUPE!

[Sarcazmo]

Maybe they should put a link on the amazing future ones that says "Dupe" and if a story gets more than a couple "Dupe" votes from logged in paid members, it would be automatically delayed until an editor re-approved it?

Re:Great to start of sunday with a DUPE!

[binner1]

While this would work just fine, we really shouldn't have to resort to something like this. I've been around /. for quite a while now (my original ID was 68996; fairly low)...Dupes never used to be a real problem. It's only been in the last 6 - 12 months that they've become an epidemic. I can recall maybe 2 - 3 dupes in the first 3 years of my /. reading experience. What has changed recently that we see so many dupes? Any Editors care to comment?

Then again, maybe I wasn't paying as much attention in the first few years I was around these here parts...maybe dupes have been an epidemic the whole time?

I'm not complaining, this is a distributed system, and nothing's perfect. I'm just curious.

-Ben

Re:Great to start of sunday with a DUPE!

[Richard_at_work]

Two things have probably contributed to the number of dupes:

• Increased number of Editors
• Increased number of stories submitted

Increased number of editors means more people to check with before posting a story, and increased number of stories submitted means more to check through.

Bear in mind that most dupes use different links to the same stories, and are worded differently. This makes it much harder to check whether stories exist, as they may be the same story from different angles.

Re:Great to start of sunday with a DUPE!

[Jon Peterson]

68996 is a low id? ;-)

Yeah, the dupes are increasing. But I don't think it's a big deal. What's also increasing is the number of stories I've come across somewhere else first. I'm not sure why that is, but I'm starting to suspect /. is no longer most people's first port of call when looking for breaking news. It's shifting from being a site that reports breaking stories and under-the-radar stories, to one that just rounds up the pick of the week, so to speak.

Re:Great to start of sunday with a DUPE!

[binner1]

Ok, relatively low...I've been around for quite a while. You've obivously been around a little longer!

-Ben

Re:Great to start of sunday with a DUPE!

[haloscan]

What has changed recently that we see so many dupes? Any Editors care to comment?

Basically....CmdrTaco started making more posts.

No it's not a dupe

[i_need_no_nick]

This is all about the differeny bits of linux, the other similar post was just about the different bits.

Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[cyberlotnet]

http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/0 3/07/173242&mode=nested&tid=106

This was posted less then a month ago..

The search box at the bottom of the page, "linux mpeg" and bang first page results..

There should be able to rate articles as "dupes" posters of "dupes" get locked out of slashdot for 7 days. This might force people to use the search button prior to posting, At the very least it would keep Hermos and other staff locked out of slashed forever since they are some of the worst offenders.

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[Richard_at_work]

We`ve had stuff duped the same day, so a month is getting a bit better ;) Still......

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[haggar]

posters of "dupes" get locked out of slashdot for 7 days

Sure, but Taco would have to find a new job, in that case, and I doubt the poor guy has got much to put on his resume.

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[ChaoticChaos]

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!

The USS Taco takes a shot across the bow.

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[ChaoticChaos]

The post got a "5 Funny". It sounds like you don't have a clue what is funny? ;-)

I guess the moderators and I are in good company.

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[ChaoticChaos]

You first. ...and don't be such an Anonymous Coward.

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[dodobh]

Hey, he can always say: Give me a job or I'll just post duplicate links to your site on Slashdot.

Seriously though, building a large, loyal customer base is a serious management achievement. Getting the site name into the Jargon file (Slashdot Effect) is another.
Building a /legitimate/ large DDOS tool is another achievement (see slashdot effect).

[Obl. spelling joke: That first line should be spelled differently]

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[caino59]

"There should be able to rate articles as "dupes" posters of "dupes" get locked out of slashdot for 7 days."

Why, so we get a week of dupes when they come back?

heh

What I wonder, isn't this wh the subscribers get to see the stories early? seems like there's a failure here somewhere.

maybe if a certain number of subscribers vote the post as a dupe, it gets pulled...?

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[abirdman]

It appears that not all stories get into the subscribers' "see the future" queue. Also, as far as I can tell, subscribers don't get to post early. There's no comment link, and hence no feedback loop, in the "future" stories. All the future stories seem to do for subscribers is let them read the referenced articles before they get all /.'ed. Heck, I'd volunteer to do a quick spell (and grammar) check on them ahead of time, but there's no way to do that.

I do find it a little strange the editors don't read t

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[squaretorus]

But hey - dont we all like a bit of nostaligia from time to time - and in this modern age doesn't nostalgia kick in earlier and earlier - we used to get nostalgic for times 20 - 40 years ago. Now its 20 - 40 Days or even Hours!

Nothing wrong with that!

Remember how funny we all dressed when this was first posted! And how peaceful times were! Shit - there were even programmes other than News on the TV and werent they still making those funny transparent iMacs!!!

Them were the days!

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[larien]

Bah, nostalgia was better in my day...

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[gmuslera]

Take them as an opportunity for the desesperate ones to get karma points. If a dupe story is posted, the only thing needed to get good karma is to check the old article, post in this one the best (+5 points) ones, and you get instant, mindless karma.

If old articles are not checked for dupes, how will be checked old comments of those old articles? :)

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[Speare]

I've suggested before that the slash code could easily take the URLs in a submission and look back through previous submissions and posted stories. It could mark the submission as "possibly a repeat" when it's entered in the queue, so the editor has a clue at first glance.

In fact, when multiple submissions refer to the same link, the queue routines could even find the "best" submission or the "earliest" submission and give those preferential weighting. You could define "best" as having more links, more

Re:Ok these dupes are getting STUPID

[evil_one]

It doesn't even need to be /code itself, it could easily be a local database, with the story url linked to the other urls. That way there's no extra overhead on the site.

Re:Explanation

[abirdman]

Amen. You're right. I was so bored I was browsing articles about Apple and game consoles. This gives us the option of reading all the witty "this is a dupe" comments as well. No news on a weekend when I've got mod points and the house to myself just ain't right!

Re: Dupe?

[Elledan]

The best thing about duplicate stories on /. are the nearly infinite amount of 'Dupe?'-posts which are posted even before the 'FP?!!!1'-posts.

I feel dirty now for even replying to a duplicate story =(

3D Visualization of Slashdot Duplicate Posts

[Anonymous Coward]

That would look something like a caffeine molecule I suspect.

Re:3D Visualization of Slashdot Duplicate Posts

[john_lewmanny]

That would look something like a caffeine molecule I suspect.

Mind it: caffeine molecule [caffeinearchive.com].

(Or Google it [google.com] ).

Old news

[s390]

The Inquirer published this two weeks ago:
Linux, the movie [theinquirer.net].

Do try to keep up, Slashdot.

Re:Old news

[Kircle]

The Inquirer published this two weeks ago

for all you know, the inquirer might have gotten it from here [slashdot.org]. in which case, this story submitter might have gotten it from the inquirer. so! when you think about it, a slashdot story could have originated from a slashdot. and wouldn't that just be hunky dory?

in other news

[Miguel de Icaza]

a revelotionary stereoscopic news delivey effect has been achieved through multiple layers of duplication

...back to the war

hmm

[tadheckaman]

151 KBs and 15 posts so far? wow, all I can say is wow...

Re:hmm

[Anonymous Coward]

Shut up. We are trying to watch war reports on CNN and FOX.

Re:hmm

[ChaoticChaos]

Is there any news channel you approve of? I do agree that CNN is wayyyyyyy too left leaning for me.

For news, I primarily turn to http://news.google.com/. That's about as objective as it gets.

Aww, shucks!

[concatenation]

It's about Linux; who cares if it's a dupe?!

Re:Aww, shucks!

[ChaoticChaos]

Bill Gates. He would care a lot. He considers the dupe stories an evil attempt to promote the OS. ;-)

A tip for watching

[KingDaveRa]

When you watch it, make sure you have the song 'You are the sunshine of my life' by Stevie Wonder playing. It fits so well :-)

Re:FAG!

[KingDaveRa]

I resent that. Winamp was on random. So :-p

The 3D Linux Development movie

[snofla]

This one right? [revolution-os.com]

He's from France!

[The Ape With No Name]

You can't trust this! He's probably an agent provacatuer^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hspy for French interests in Iraq, hell bent on stealing Linux from freedom loving, God fearing Merikins! If you even click on the link, you are supporting turrurizm!

On the serious side, when will Slashdot stop these fucking dupes? I read this site twice a day and I can remember this being posted before, so why can't the /. crew do it's job when they are looking at the site realtime?

Important Announcement

[Jacques Chirac]

I have chosen Slashdot to make this announcement: We have decided the US is right and I just had a stick up my ass. We are sending our troops to Iraq to help free those poor people.

Re:Important Announcement

[The Ape With No Name]

Monsieur, j'ai connu Jacques Chirac, et vous n'êtes aucun Jacques Chirac! Mes excuses à Lloyd Bentsen.

Re:Important Announcement

[Jacques Chirac]

Oui, je suis Jacques Chirac. Now bite me.

Re:Important Announcement

[The Ape With No Name]

Nikoli! Ne bom grisel te! Tvoj fant nisem.

Heh

[arvindn]

Now, if someone would write a tool to produce a 3D tour of slashdot stories ... maybe that would help spotting the dupes ;)

Oh joy

[Second_Derivative]

Now the guy hosting this MPEG get to be fucked up the ass for a second time this month ;) I'm sure his bandwidth bill this month will be ... interesting (in the chinese sense of the word)

I have a conspiracy theory that all these dupes are really a plot by the slashdot editors to batter into submission the sites of people they don't like. Hey, why bother amassing a botnet when you've got a "legitimate" one already ;)

'tis a dupe

[l33t-gu3lph1t3]

Haven't we seen this already a few weeks ago?

This....

[mav[LAG]]

is a Unix system! I know this!

Time to look back..

[actor_au]

And see what got +5's the last time this was posted and then claim them as my own, its the perfect plan to rebuild my karma.
Unless this gets modded down as a troll, then I'm screwed once more.

Obligatory response to your sig

[Raul654]

Do you save them to mod him up or down? ;-)

Okay...

[xintegerx]

I've seen maybe 20 dupe stories in the past six months, three sets within three days once, and a case when a dupe was a story already on front page and a copy of the second article on the front page.

The reason slashdot is still successful is obvious -- see this FAQ answer. [slashdot.org]

a lot of posts saying it's a dupe...

[zogger]

...but I missed it whenever it was first posted. Anyway,just went to the page easily to look, because for a noob and a non-coder this would be a good thing but the mpeg is just too big, guess I'll skip it on my very slow dialup connection. Does anyone know of just a few static images as an alternative? A small page of thumbs perhaps?

double-v eegreks zed

[mix_master_mike]

you know what would be funny - if the guy who ran the site submitted both articles :)

Wait...I did see this before!

[PCeye]

This is Bill Murray's "Groundhog Day" of 3D visualizations

eh.. it's like the "Map of the Internet"...

[cbreaker]

.. and not very interesting. Certainly not very educational.

I mean, okay sure, it's the amazing, mysterious, magnificent and omnipotent Linux kernel. So I guess this means we should waste time doing things like this to "better understand" it.

Sorry. I am usually not this cynical, but sometimes enough is enough.

Theft (piracy) of the Linux kernel?

[Matthew Hopkins]

OK it's off-topic but enquiring minds want to know... it *seems* (I stress SEEMS) to me that Checkpoint [checkpoint.com] has basically stolen the Linux kernel. They've got a product called "SecurePlatform" which is basically Firewall/1 on a bootable CD, with a custom hardened OS. Well three guesses what OS that is. Yup it's Linux, apparently based off of RedHat with heavy mods. Where's the source? OK I know it's only customers who HAVE to get it under the terms of the GPL but I can't believe none of the customers who bough

live visualisation?

[ChrisJones]

Could something like this be rewritten to display in real-time in GL and then hooked into a kernel level debugger? That would let you watch a kernel visualisation in realtime, get to see data pulsing between sections, etc.
Perhaps not the most useful debugging tool in the world, but it sure would look cool ;)

Re:live visualisation?

[Timbo]

For my undergraduate dissertation I'm doing something very similar to that. I've written a realtime profiling tool that can be attached to any single threaded binary. Additionally I've written a realtime GL based call graph drawing frontend to the profiling tool. I should be releasing it in the next month or two. Screenshot:

Tuxracer in realtime [op.ath.cx]

Re:live visualisation?

[ChrisJones]

Damn, that's pretty sweet. Does it highlight the nodes in some way as they are called?

Re:live visualisation?

[Timbo]

Right now I change node size and node colour based on number of calls and accumulated time, but configurable at compile time. Eventually I'll add this as a runtime option. I'm also hopefully to incorporate call frequency into the graph so functions that are seldom called can be alpha faded out. It's all pretty good fun, but at the end of the day it's really a toy - a textual profiling output is ultimately more readable.

Re:live visualisation?

[pellaeon]

What would an oops or panic look like?

I just hope it isn't a *cough* blue screen *cough* ...

Re:live visualisation?

[ChrisJones]

I guess it would halt execution of the binary and highlight the failed function in some way so you could pull in to it and examine it to find out what went wrong.
Having said that, I'm not sure that 3d debugging is necessarily a good idea ;)

New 3D tool to visualize Slashdot dupes

[Dolphinzilla]

This new tool allows you to get a 3D view of the numerous duplicated postings on Slashdot. The axis's of the 3D space is story, time, and poster - so we can get a better understanding of the complex nature of Slashdot dupe's

Great first war reruns now slashdot reruns

[scoobywan]

guess they were right about the whole history repeating it's self thing.

map of dupes?

[natefanaro]

do you think we could get a visual map of dupe stories?

New Slashdot Catagory

[totallygeek]

How about a Dupe topic? This would shut up the dupe-police out there. The icon image could be a cell splitting into two or a hand-held mirror.

.fr!?!!

[autopr0n]

What, slashdot linking to a site in the traitorous nation France!? How unpatriotic!

/insane 'patriotism'

Re:.fr!?!!

[mindriot]

Nononono. .fr is short for .freedom. ;-)

slashdupe.org

[fok]

slashdupe.org

Nice. Now they can....

[phre4k]

get slashdotted twice!

Please ignore my .sig

Re:dupe!

[ChaoticChaos]

Informative +3 ;-)

Re:Dupe?

[Black Copter Control]

Is this a duplicate reply?

Need .... modertion ... points .... (wheeze, gasp!).

Re:Dupe?

[canajin56]

Need .... modertion ... points .... (wheeze, gasp!).

Oh, you know, you could browse at 1 instead. No more ACs that havn't been modded up :D

Re:Dupe?

[Black Copter Control]

I think he was going to moderate them insightful. [

Funny, actually.

Re:Have some PRIORITIES people!

[ChaoticChaos]

Too much caffeine?

Re:Have some PRIORITIES people!

[ChaoticChaos]

Too much caffeine? ;-)

Seriously, all the stories being posted are infinitely less important than the war, should the site just shut down until it's all over?

Like another poster mentioned, it's been 12 hours since something was last posted,,,, the scramble was ON! ;-)

Re:Have some PRIORITIES people!

[WegianWarrior]

Funny.. I saw no one complaining when it was just iraqies who bit the bullet. People die in wars. Mostly, it is not very photogenic deaths. Besides, who's the idiot who thought no one would dare fire back at the coallition forces?

Disclaimer; No, I'm not a peacehippy, I just don't like wars. Thats why I'm an officer of the RNoAF in the first place, to help prevent 'em from happening.

Re:Have some PRIORITIES people!

[WegianWarrior]

We have deployed a bit over 10% of our fighterstrenght to Kirgisitan to provide aircover for Operation Enduring Freedom. The difference between the operations in Afganistan and the war of agression in Iraq however, as I see it, is that only one can be said to be a responce to a attack on NATO...

Re:visualizing complex data

[koh]

This is interesting indeed, since what you say is a carbon copy of [slashdot.org]
this post from the duped story.

Dupe stories, dupe posts. I guess you just had it the slashdot way...

Re:visualizing complex data

[Moloch666]

Whoa, it's like the Twilight Zone or something. That parent poster is weird.