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SCALE Talks Now Online 59

Posted by michael from the yadda-yadda dept.
irabinovitch writes "LPBN caught all the SCALE talks on video and has them available online. Everything from the case for Linux in the University, to the latest 2.5 updates from Robert Love and Patrick Mochel."
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  • Really nice /. (Score:5, Funny)

    by vreeker ( 264162 ) <slashdot@opid.ca> on Friday November 08, 2002 @06:07PM (#4629051) Homepage
    LPBN caught all the SCALE talks on video and has them available online. Everything from the case for Linux in the University, to the latest 2.5 updates from Robert Love and Patrick Mochel.

    So we beat the fscking shit out of thier servers and rack up their bandwidth bills... how nice.

    • Re:Really nice /. (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Hmm... it seems like this happens 8 times out of 10. Can someone please tell me what it would take for us to be able to do a mirror of this stuff when it's posted? With all of the freakin geeks on this board, I'm sure we have the combined intelligence to build nuclear weapons... making something similar to google cache shouldn't take more than a week or two a the most.

      Just think.. when an article is posted, we could actually read it! But then we wouldn't have anything to bitch about.

      • Re:Really nice /. (Score:3, Informative)

        by geekd ( 14774 )
        Can someone please tell me what it would take for us to be able to do a mirror of this stuff when it's posted?

        Money.

        Bandwidth costs money.

        So they are thrashed the day they get posted. They will recover. Many many more of thier target audience now knows they exist. This is a net gain for the postee, whatever harm they get that first day.

        • Bandwidth costs money.

          So its ok to save you money on bandwidth, but its not ok to save them money on bandwidth. Cute.

          Is it a net gain if their bandwidth usage jumps 200% over their normal contractual amount, and they redline their pipe for hours on end? Do you have any idea how much that costs?

      • Re:Really nice /. (Score:5, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08, 2002 @06:33PM (#4629213)

        Read the FAQ on caching [slashdot.org].

        • "I could try asking permission, but do you want to wait 6 hours for a cool breaking story while we wait for permission to link someone? "

          This argument would hold some relevance if it wasnt for the fact that the sites that get hit hardest are the "Joe user adds window to his case" stories.

          Not everything that gets posted is late breakign news, most of it is just cool stuff that could wait a few hours/days without anyone noticing.
          Infact, I'd wager that the majority of the late breaking news comes from sites that can withstand the /. effect (bbc, nytimes, etc)
    • Well as I clicked, I innocently thought that any site going by the moniker Low Ping Bastard Network would have the bandwidth nescessary to satisfy my curiosity.

      Then I actually found out what LPBN stood for.

  • Yeah we got Linux at our University.... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Dareth ( 47614 ) on Friday November 08, 2002 @06:08PM (#4629061)
    ... and people get excited when they see LILO when it boots. Then they start asking questions, like what is this? Where can I get it? Is Di$ney's Stitch hiding in the blue background somewhere?

    Somedays it just pays to wear a RedHat.

  • Linux in Universities (Score:5, Interesting)

    by locarecords.com ( 601843 ) <davidNO@SPAMlocarecords.com> on Friday November 08, 2002 @06:10PM (#4629076) Homepage Journal
    I think the is an inescable argument for LINUX to be used in Universities. At my Uni we are looked into Microsoft campus agreements that are *impossible* to get out of without an exceedingly shocking leave clause. Now whoever signed that shouldn't have but now getting out is harder and people get used to their software and then Microsoft becomes a very expensive *need*

    On the contrary if they had moved in an Open Source direction at least they would be spared this restrictive contract and they could have bought Office for those that were really keen rather than EVERYONE even *if they don't use M$ products!!!

    • In most cases it's not the contract that binds them to continuing the use of microsoft products, but the fact that after the initial relatively cheap contract, the university and its substructures have become totally dependent on Microsoft Operating Systems. It's very difficult for a large scale university to change policy over night and as such, Microsoft pretty much has a license to print money when it comes to renewing said contract.

      Problem with Open source alternatives is simply that it's more expensive to administer them, it's fairly easy to find someone qualified to keep a Windows or Mac lab running fairly well, but *nix systems require a tad more expertise to run properly.

      • Re:Linux in Universities (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward
        if your definition of fairly well is a very broad definition.

        I have yet to see a almost functional windows machine in a public lab, or if they did have a functional setup they would be broken by idoits inside of a week. Multi-user secruity in windows prety much dosen't exist, so it's quite annoying to be forced to use a public windows terminal.
      • Problem with Open source alternatives is simply that it's more expensive to administer them, it's fairly easy to find someone qualified to keep a Windows or Mac lab running fairly well, but *nix systems require a tad more expertise to run properly.

        These days it's not hard to find someone who knows Linux or UNIX. With the current economy, you wouldn't have to pay them (much) more either.

        Is it really more expensive to administer? I think that really depends on the skills of the administrator and the software you're talking about. As for an office suite running on Linux, it's no harder to use than MS Office. Try a recent distro! It's very easy to install and use.

        One benefit you've overlooked is that once a Linux system is setup, you can let it run for years problem free: that's where you can save some money. Windows installations need reformatting every 6 months to a year in most cases.
        • From http://www.nyfairuse.org/analysis/trech.comp.xhtml [nyfairuse.org]

          Word processors such as Microsoft Word could use treacherous computing when they save your documents, to make sure no competing word processors can read them. Today we must figure out the secrets of Word format by laborious experiments in order to make free word processors read Word documents. If Word encrypts documents using treacherous computing when saving them, the free software community won't have a chance of developing software to read them -- and if we could, such programs might even be forbidden by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
        • No it's probably not hard to find someone who knows linux or Unix these days, but it's somewhat harder to find staff for every lab who are both capable of fixing even limited problems on a *nix machine, and who are also able to, and have the time to, explain to every new user exactly how to use a Unix machine. Not to mention conflicts with files from a users home machine(Microsoft Works is the devil).

          Setup is not really all that much of an issue since short of locking absolutely everything down which is more of a pain than it's worth with all the random courseware(also not linux compliant) which has to be installed at various points, it's not uncommon for a machine to not last very long before it needs to be redone(or at least restored to an original standing) so we have software to do that.

          Except for certain specific applications(Major specific labs particularly in the Comp Sci and Enginnering fields), most open source systems just aren't terribly viable. In most universities these labs already use some sort of *nix system as much as possible anyway, so it's really a moot point.

  • Is the site slashdotted already or did somebody finally DoS the DNS system? The host www.socallinuxexpo.com in the link cannot be resolved.

  • Is the google cache /.'d as well? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Blimey85 ( 609949 ) on Friday November 08, 2002 @06:12PM (#4629091)
    Here is the link to the google cache:

    http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:i4tXkfSa-3sC: www.socallinuxexpo.com/presentations.php+&hl=en&lr =lang_en&ie=UTF-8 [216.239.53.100]

    It's coming up real slow for me though... still hasn't loaded so I don't know if it will help anyone or not.

    But it's worth a try.

  • *Sigh* Another site slashdotted (Score:5, Funny)

    by jpetts ( 208163 ) on Friday November 08, 2002 @06:13PM (#4629093)
    Is it true that people pay /. money not to be mentioned here?

  • EXCELLENT! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08, 2002 @06:14PM (#4629101)
    This is AWESOME news! Now I don't have to rent a DVD, check HBO 1-6, go to the opera, or interact with other human beings in any way! This makes my Friday night! YESSSSS!!! I only wish I could decide which one to watch first! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • I've finally had an original idea! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08, 2002 @06:17PM (#4629114)
    Slashdot is selling subscriptions but what do you really get for paying money? Not that much. What if Slashdot offered a cached copy of any articles/sites/etc. that it links to, but only to subscribing customers?

    Gets Slashdot more money, offers yet another reason to subscribe, and it allows the more frustrated users a way to see the linked articles the same hour they are posted. I for one would cough up quite a bit to be able to see the articles right away every time. I think this could work great.

    • huh? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by djupedal ( 584558 )
      Why not just use the net and find things that interest you on your own? Beats having someone else decide what you should look at, me thinks....you risk missing more than you might find with a /. IV in your arm if you just hang here 24/7.
      • But what about those of us who just drop in once in a while? Slashdot serves a great purpose. It routinely has stories about stuff that interests me. It's not the only site I frequent, but it's the only one that has the ability to crush a site (albeit for a short amount of time) and therefore I think there are several options that could and should be looked at.

        I think some sort of Slashdot cache would greatly improve Slashdot in terms of usefulness. As someone pointed out in a post above, the main thing stoping this is the money for the extra bandwidth a cache would require. I think having the cache only for those who subscribe to the service solves that problem. If you use the bandwidth, you need to pay for it. Those who don't mind waiting for a slow site, or waiting a few hours to read the article don't have to pay.

        Maybe that would be an idea for a future poll. List a few options to solve this problem and allow the Slashdot community to vote on what option they would prefer. If there is sufficient interest in a pay-for-cache approach, maybe that could be implemented.

        And I do apologize for this being off-topic but seeing as how I can get to the article to read it before posting anything on-topic, I figured I would comment on this.

  • It's SCAGLE (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08, 2002 @06:20PM (#4629134)
    "Southern California GNU/Linux Expo". Get it right.

  • Cache... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by RudeDude ( 672 )
    This is a copy [mrhostbot.com] from Google cache so it's prolly not of that much value.
  • "..Robert Love and Patrick Mochel."

    Is it just me or those names belong in a bad, gay nuddie movie?
  • Argh.
    I'm pissed I actually missed the conference, cause I used to work for one of the speakers and I think his talk would have been interesting.

    I'll have to watch the videos later...its cool they got all of them.
    • Instead of having to pay $70 to hear the speakers now you get them free. Because didn't miss anything with the exhibits.

      Most were a couple people who dragged their 'puters down and sat in a chair to hang out. The LinuxChix were only ones who appeared to take some time and put a booth together. IBM and Sharp brought a machines, booth personal and brochures. Sun dropped a few Sun Blades off running Linux and left. MSC had lots of posters and lit', but couldn't get their demo cluster to work (well at least by the time I left.) Tollis was there with Bru lit'. FSF got bored talking to themselves and left. Debian sold t-shirts. The Darwin guys were too busy talking to each other than to talk to anyone else. Best was FreeBSD was there giving out full copies of the BSDMall distro. Sony was there and a couple other small companies I don't remember the name of.

      So for a Expo to promote use of Linux by coporations it was a major failure. As a place for a bunch of user groups to get together and hang and shoot the shit it was fun. But not $70 worth of fun, especially not that the speakers videos are available over the net.

  • no no no, its Yatta! [mit.edu]
  • They mentioned in the end of the Robert Love's presentation that the slides are available online. What's the URL, I missed it.
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