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Pocket-Sized RC Cars Hit U.S. Soil

Posted by Hemos on Thu Sep 26, 2002 06:12 PM
from the vroom-vroom-VROOM dept.
airrage writes "RC cars are nothing new. But apparently, ZipZaps, now being sold at RadioShack, are pocket-sized, modifiable, and can be tricked out with body kits and other accessories. Even more impressive, "A 16,000-RPM performance motor is included with all starter kits". The story at extremetech here is." Kinda like the Thinkgeek cars. Yes, TG is part of OSDN - obligatory disclosure.
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  • i have seen these exact toys in airports for well over a year in the states. hope you spend the kickback money wisely taco...
  • Buy it.. (Score:4, Informative)

    by Frank of Earth (126705) <frank@fperkin[ ]om ['s.c' in gap]> on Thursday September 26 2002, @06:15PM (#4340431) Homepage Journal
    here [radioshack.com]
    • Sadly, RadioShack's site is IE-only. Every page I try to hit with Mozilla, including the bloody home page, generates a "The page cannot be displayed" error, with no other information. The query string contains this gem:
      ErrSource=Microsoft+VBScript+runtime+error
      Dumb fucks. I would have ordered a handful of these - they look pretty cool.
      • Gee - I loaded it using Netscape 4.7-something...

        While I don't necessarily disagree with your evaluation of their collective intelligence, you haven't quite justified your use of profanity.

    • The little cars are pretty cool, but for a few more bucks (ok, 50 more bucks) you can buy the mini desktop rover [plantraco.com] which is pretty cool, can be computer controlled, has tracks instead of wheels, can crawl over your keyboard and can even play lazer tag if you get a couple of them together.
    • I got one from www.rcmicroracers.com [rcmicroracers.com] a couple of weeks ago. They're actually pretty cool to play with -- and a lot cheaper than the full size RC stuff I used to tinker with as a teen. But, sigh, I do miss those gasoline powered racers.
  • These little cars are all the rage in Asia as Bit Char-G (bit charge) and Europe as Compact Char-G. Check out http://www.blackadderhall.com/bitchar-g/index.html for the scoop.

    Cheers,
    _GP_
  • You mean Radio Shack has been out of stock for months on their cars, too?

    Neat!
  • My friend got one of these in an airport a while back and it freaking rocks. He can do all sorts of things with it, and it is totally customizable...you can even get different gears for it to do tricks and whatnot. This is awesome..I just got paid today (tech support *is* worth 8 bucks an hour I guess)...so I'm gonna try and pick one of these up on the way home! Woohoo!
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Yeah! Now I can gat into a pocket-sized Road Rage!
  • by fobbman (131816) on Thursday September 26 2002, @06:17PM (#4340447) Homepage
    I hope that they offer really small Type-R stickers...

    • from the article

      The high octane NOS® Nitrous motor zooms along at 23,500 RPM and is only available in The Fast And The Furious Street Tuner Upgrade Kit

      I've always wondered where those civic lx "racers" have been getting their parts from...

      My apologies in advance for those few people out there who enjoy imports AND actually go to the work to make them go fast.
  • Connon O'brian showed this on his show last night. It was kind of funny watching him pimp this stupid product ...
  • I saw these while on a business trip to Irvine for sale in the Spectrum.

    This is not big, new or interesting news. Blah!
  • You will have to find it somewhere else. Their inventory seems to be slashdotted.
  • by Doppler00 (534739) on Thursday September 26 2002, @06:20PM (#4340467) Homepage Journal
    I saw someone playing with one of these type of RC cars in our cafeteria. They were driving it around annoying people. Unfortunately, it was so small that someone accidently stepped on it. Didn't work after that.
  • You can find the Zip Zaps website here [zipzaps.com], at least until it gets /.'ed.

  • So where can I get the hydro/bass kit?

    I can just see my co-worker driving around the office thumping his kit car through my cube.

    Or how about the "hummer" kit so I can drive my car through the bath tub or a parking lot puddle?

    And we definitely need a neon underglow kit for those late night office parties.

  • ZipZap tools allow users to play with three different gear ratios to adjust the "horsepower"

    To be pedantic, a different gear will give you different axel torque. Higher torque usually gives you quicker acceleration, at a possible (not always) lowering of top speed - you essentially run out of RPM before the motor is maxed out. Since this has no transmission so no way of playing with different RPM bands, I bet it does lower top speed a bit.

    Horsepower is work per unit of time. A different gear ratio changes the work (effort) and the time in equal opposite amounts, horsepower remains constant.
    • I think that the sentence is only missing a conjunction:

      "On the company's web site, ZipZap tools allow users to play with three different gear ratios and to adjust the "horsepower" and top speed through a "performance" booster kit"

      The booster kits include other engines, which do have different horsepowers. I don't imagine that the lower HP 10,000 RPM engine is very popular though.

      If I buy one, I'm going straight to the model shop to buy some paints for a flame job. Slapping a pre-made Fast and Furious body onto the same chassis that everyone uses isn't my idea of "custom." I should probably practice on some Hot Wheels first though, they are much cheaper.
  • by DragonMagic (170846) on Thursday September 26 2002, @06:22PM (#4340482) Homepage
    These have been in Japan for a while, namely the brand "DigiQ" pocket RC cars.

    Some links:
    http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~muro/
    http:// www.takaratoys.co.jp/digiq/
    http://digiq.s12.xrea .com/

    They're about 600-900 yen each, or about $5-$8 US for the basic cars.
  • Why are they using a radio frequency with a wavelength the size of a real car? Why not use a more efficient frequency in the microwave band?
  • by JustAnotherReader (470464) on Thursday September 26 2002, @06:24PM (#4340494)
    Kinda like the Thinkgeek cars.

    Only Much Much cheaper.

    • Yeah, and it's funny that the this post was ostensibly to report on ZipZaps, yet the editor posted no link to the zipzaps site and instead posted a link to the page where you could by the ThinkGeek cars.
  • Fastest combination I got from the website was 411 Feet Per Minute. 411 * 60 = 24660 Feet Per Hour or 4.67 Miles Per Hour -- not much faster than walking speed (how fast do they really need to go anyway). Who cares though... I still think they're nifty!
  • Lots of 'em (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Mu*puppy (464254) on Thursday September 26 2002, @06:25PM (#4340499)
    I've been seeing things like this for many months now. However, it's the options on this one that sets it a bit apart, customizations of motors, etc. Wish it could be without all the damn 'entertainment branding' tho.

    Still, in my mind, a car just isn't cool as a pocket tank [dansdata.com]. Oh yeah, time to mod one of these puppies for Warhammer 40K...

    "I'm not really a sysadmin, I just play one at work..."

  • While on a recent trip to Radio Shack, longtime automotive hobbiest Grant Holman found a solution to a longtime problem.

    "I just never felt it was big enough," explained Grant. "I've tried everything possible to compensate - tried extreme hobbies, got on steroids and worked out, and drove only the biggest, fastest cars. But it seemed that the bigger the compensation I tried, the smaller my pecker felt."

    But after seeing the new ZipZap pocket sized RC cars, Grant's problems were solved. "I realized that I'd been looking at this all wrong. Bigger wasn't the answer. These cars are so small and so fun, I feel a lot better about my pecker's potential."

    Eunice Abrahms, Grant's girlfriend, concured. "Ever since he bought his first ZipZap my sexual satisfaction has increased immensely," she added while trying out various models at the store. "Grant even lets me help pick which one we get next," she said. "You can hold the really powerful ones in your hand and run the motor and they really shake! Those are my favorite."
  • I guess the obligatory disclosure worked: ThinkGeek is already sold out!
  • A 16,000 RPM motor just isn't that much. I remember many 540 type motors pulling more RPM's about 15 years ago. I'm sure they're over 30k these days. In addition, there are plenty of gas powered engines that go well over 16k.

    • ---snip
      years ago. I'm sure they're over 30k these days. In addition, there are plenty of gas powered engines that go well over 16k.
      ---snip

      Not many of gas powered engines of any RPM this small...even most model airplane engines would be nearly the size of the entire car.
  • by x136 (513282) on Thursday September 26 2002, @06:36PM (#4340551) Homepage
    ...but where's the option to install a bunch of subwoofers that rattle the trunk lid, making the stereo sound like crap? And how about coffee can sized exhaust tips that make the engine sound like a bicycle with playing cards in the spokes?

    Stickers are essential, too. How else can you show off your Ford Escort Evolution IV or your Chevy Beretta Type R?
  • by Nathdot (465087) on Thursday September 26 2002, @06:49PM (#4340609)
    In a press conference Wednesday, Radio Shack introduced the ZipZap line of miniature RC cars. Each is based upon real-life roadster, and can be tricked out with body kits and other accessories. Customers also have the option of upgrading and tweaking the gear ratios to give their car an extra boost.

    So you can fit out your Porsche 911 RC with a spoiler, super charger, nitros, chrome alloy mag wheels, cool purple fog downlights, tinted windows, a "SPEEED DEEEMON" windscreen decal, and tiny little "extra large" beverage holders and it will still be defeated by a carpet with only a moderate shag-pile rating.

    Pffft! :)
  • From the linked article:

    The Starter Kit for each ZipZaps model comes complete with a stock chassis, "performance" motor, 12:1 gearing, factory tires, factory wheels, custom rims, realistic body shell, owner's manual, a collectable trading card, and a six-way controller/charger with removable wrist strap.

    Okay, I see forward/reverse and left/right. What're the other two ways or is it talking about something else?
  • Jeez, these things were on sale for $10 in Thailand the last time I visited. What a markup!
  • by Monkelectric (546685) <slashdot@@@monkelectric...com> on Thursday September 26 2002, @07:30PM (#4340809)
    How is it radioshack is able to manipulate media outlets into carrying this "story" ?

    I saw a story on CNN about it as well! This is not news, this is advertising.

  • by Nijika (525558) on Thursday September 26 2002, @07:31PM (#4340815) Homepage Journal
    Can't wait. Windows 2000 Pro CDs as obstacles.
  • by UnknownSoldier (67820) on Thursday September 26 2002, @07:51PM (#4340909)
    Sure the Tommy Bit Char-G chars are cuter, but I prefer a car that is faster and looks nicer, say, like my Dodge Viper ...
    http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x3.html [kyosho.com]

    "Under the hood":
    http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x1.html [kyosho.com]

    --

    "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."
    - Thomas Jefferson

  • microrccars.com (Score:4, Informative)

    by coffeedreg (86096) on Thursday September 26 2002, @10:07PM (#4341573)
    If you want to find out more about ZipZaps, DigiQ, iRacers, Bit Char-Gs, MiniZs, and a billion other micro rc cars, drop by microrccars.com and check out the forums.
  • by Dracos (107777) on Thursday September 26 2002, @11:40PM (#4341944)

    Micro R/C cars have been out in japan for at least 2 years. Ebay has facilitated their entry into the U.S. as early as last winter (as far as I can tell). More proof that Japan gets cool toys way before we do.

    If you want a wider range of customization, go for a Bit Char-G from Tomy [tomy.co.jp], which have very recently been launched as R/C MicroSizers [microsizers.com] in the States (and also under different names in Australia and the U.K.). There are also numerous knockoffs of "bits" coming from China which are generally of lower quality. Hell, even Wal*Mart has a line on these things.

    I admit, I first saw micro r/c cars on ThinkGeek (which are called Digi-Q from Takara [takaratoys.co.jp]). After I finally decided to get a micro r/c car, I did some research:

    • Bits have the widest range of accessories (bodies, gears, motors, etc)
    • Bits have real steering, which uses a small magnet to move the front wheels.
    • Digi-Q's have 2 motors, where speed differetial between them steers the car
    • Bits look less cartoony than Digi-Q's (but still a little bit cartoony)
    • Digi-Q's are controlled by IR, not RF

    Therefore, I went with a bit. ZipZaps have a 16k rpm motor? So what: You can get 38k rpm motors for bits.

    One of the things going against all these toys in the U.S. is the body styles they produce, which are all Japanese. How many people outside of Japan know what a Nissan Skyline is? Tomy may be prepared, as you can see a Mach 5 and Mini Cooper scheduled for release soon. I want a Chevy SSR and a '69 GTO Judge (gotta be orange) personally.

    BUT, these things are temendous fun. There's a huge online community around the micro r/c hobby. Check out www.tinyrc.com [tinyrc.com], www.bitchar-g.co.uk [bitchar-g.co.uk] and QFM Racing [questformadness.com] (click the right side of the page).

  • Hi everyone. I'm COMPLETELY wet behind the ears with regards slashdot - hell, it took me almost 15mins to work out how to post this first ever reply - DOH! The only times I've really taken any notice of it was when my old *nix-lovin' flatmate used to try to highlight the errors in my Microsoft-lovin' ways.

    I was having a pretty quiet Friday here in Sydney. I was at work, idling browsing the 'Net (I am pretty safe saying that in here as my boss even struggles to use MS Word spellcheck without online help) and I saw a post on our ausmicro.com forums mentioning micro RC cars on slashdot.

    Next thing I know, our poor little web server is straining under the load and we're getting emails from all over the place. Certainly NOT how I expected another quiet Friday at work to pan out :-o We moved about half of our average monthly traffic in ONE DAY. I phoned my old flatmate tonig

    Yes, Aaron and I (aka ausmicro.com) do import micro and mini radio control equipment into Oz. It all started when we both wanted a Bit Char-G and throught that the US-based vendors were a little on the exxy side (with the dodgy USD-AUD exchange rate et al). Aaron (who is in Canberra) and I (in Sydney) are good friends and both of us had a lot of business/market experience business in Japan and SE Asia. So the phone calls and emails started.

    We got our first cars in and we were hooked. Colleagues at our workplaces wanted them and so the demand grew. We started ausmicro to see if anyone else wanted to join us for a group buy (save on freight). Suddenly it became much bigger than we'd ever hoped for.

    Everyone's gotta have a vice/hobby and RC is one of ours. Running the website (which gives us great mod ideas!) is the most expensive part of the hobby. I know it sounds like tired rhetoric, but ausmicro.com is about a sense of community - not profit. We load up the landed/dutied cost of the items we import by 5%, which goes towards subsidising the site running costs (transferring ~3GB of traffic per month doesn't come cheaply) Put it this way, after 6mths we're still well and truly in the red. And we expect to stay that way for another 12-18mths. But we're still loving it! ;-)

    In the last couple of months we've jumped aboard the Mini-Z craze (1:24 scale vs 1:70 scale). These are GREAT fun, too. I can highly recommend http://www.minizworld.com as a good place to start if you're interested in learning about them.

    Apologies if this post sounds cheesy/spammy. I assure you - it wasn't intended to be. I'll go as far to say as we're NOT the cheapest place to buy micro RC gear from. We DO NOT have a big range. Even our customer service SUCKS ;-) After all, Aaron and I both have "day jobs" to bay the bills. This is just a hobby! But if want to get into the craze and need help in sourcing a car or two (particularly for Aussies), we can help. We'd just like to see more folks taking up the hobby and growing the racing scene.

    Thanks again to those who contacted us (and all of the other suppliers/fansites mentioned in this story) for your interest in the hobby. If you have any questions feel free to email us (please be patient - the mail server is currently undergoing intensive care after its heart attack), or ask the community at http://www.ausmicro.com/forum

    Cheers - and have a top weekend

    Derek (aka DJ!)
    derek@ausmicro.com
    • We took apart a couple of the cars and mod kits, and they really aren't that impressive, you'd think that the 23,000 rpm engine would really make the car zoom, but it doesn't.

      High revving and no torque...sounds like your average ricer. :-)

    • Yes! Those were awesome!

      Thaks for reminding me of the name. I dug one up in the yard about a year or so ago, well the chassis anyways. I had lost it in my childhood.....my bet is that it had been buried for about 16 years or so. It was in suprisingly good shape. I wanted to 'restore' it but I can't remember where I put it. When I was a kid I remember not caring about the shells for them. The important part was the chassis and the motor. I used to make roads over hills of dirt for them to climb.

      **sniff** oh the memories...
    • Re:YAPSRCC (Score:3, Informative)

      You friend don't know much, then. ZipZaps and BitChar-G's are not identical. ZipZaps have a longer wheelbase and use a slightly different form factor motor, among other things.

      People have swapped the gears and axles from a Zip onto a Bit, though.