Perl Mongers Perl Magazine 85
howardjp writes: "The Perl Mongers have announced that they are starting a new magazine called The Perl Review (not to be confused with the literary journal Pearl). Its first issue was published on 1 February in PDF-only format, but the article 'Extreme Publishing' describes the process by which they plan to expand. With The Perl Journal's future still somewhat in doubt, this is welcome news."
Perl Journal's future isn't in doubt. (Score:5, Informative)
but have you read it? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Perl Journal's future isn't in doubt. (Score:2, Interesting)
Now, I know I'm not an mba or anything, but where's the sense in buying up a bunch of print magazines and then shutting them down? Is it some sort of a tax dodge to lose money, or what?
As for the future of tpj: it'll come out a couple of times a year, with a couple of articles each time. Yippee...
Re:Perl Journal's future isn't in doubt. (Score:1)
So I'm not too fond of these guys.
Re:Perl Journal's future isn't in doubt. (Score:1)
Maybe they're agents of the sierra club or something, saving trees by buying up print magazines and killing them off. Crazy as it sounds, this makes more sense than cmp's business plan, whatever it is...
very good news (Score:1)
Re:very good news (Score:2, Funny)
Yuo kan shore say that agian!
Interesting contest... (Score:2, Interesting)
This contest is most likely already solved. (Score:2)
what's wrong with The Perl Journal? (Score:2)
I thought now that TPJ was a supplement to SysAdmin magazine, it's future wasn't so cloudy. I've only gotten one bundled issue so far but I think it's doing all right.
But another Perl mag is fine by me.
And I must say, Brian Foy's obsession with how his name is typeset gets old really fast.
Re:what's wrong with The Perl Journal? (Score:1)
He also looks very much like John Malkovich; it/he's very frightening.
Re:what's wrong with The Perl Journal? (Score:2)
Perhaps brian d foy will face a similar fate.
Why go back in time? (Score:5, Insightful)
I suspect that over time this effort will die and Perl.com will become the de facto route for publishing articles that perl users need to read.
Re:Why go back in time? (Score:4, Interesting)
Neither format is directly better than the other, and in fact, the two formats can work off each other.
So I think that there will remain a happy co-existence between print and online articles. Particularly in the perl arena where there's not a lot of print to start with and many are thristy for good perl articles to begin with.
Re:Why go back in time? (Score:2)
O'Reilly Network is good for reading over coffee in the morning. I can log on every day and find an interesting article to read.
But I can print out The Perl Review and stick it in my bag to read while I'm commuting. Doing that with O'Reilly Network content is harder because I'd have to go through the various sites (OnJava, BSDDevCenter, etc.), select the articles I wanted to read, select the printer-friendly versions and print them. But with The Perl Review, 30 seconds of work gets me a pile of reading for the subway.
So I think that there are niches for both frequently-updated web sites and monthly magazines. There's also a big difference in the kind of content you want for each type of site. On a site that I visit daily, I'm going to want short articles (which O'Reilly provides) and in a monthly magazine I want more in-depth stuff. The Perl Review's biggest article is a 21-pager from Simon Cozens on working with the Perl source code. That sort of feature is way too big for an O'Reilly-like site.
Re:Perl.com has carried long articles (Score:2)
Re:Why go back in time? (Score:1)
I'd have to concur that the new TPJ is inferior. It is smaller and much less Perl-ish. It reminds me of the Java supplement that comes with the
C/C++ User's Journal...a few good articles but not comprehensive.
Re:my problem with perl (Score:2)
Then you probably aren't doing a lot of pattern matching (or you usually match on $_), since otherwise you're going to use the =~ operator.
Pattern matching is considered one of Perl's strengths (it's built into the language and Perl's pattern matching language is pretty expressive), so that should give you plenty of opportunity to use =~.
Re:I can write in perl too! (Score:1)
;-)
I'm happy to see this (Score:1, Redundant)
I wish Perl Mongers success with their efforts.
a magazine about all scripting languages (Score:3, Interesting)
more scripting languages. besides Perl and Python
it should also focus on Ruby, my favourite langauge. Ruby is becoming more and more popular and I think it has the potential to become the Number 1 scripting language within the next 5 years. and Perl and Python will also continue to grow. (the losers will be C/C++ and maybe also Java/C# because they are not very productive languages as are most languages which are compiled seperately). so a magazin covering Ruby, Perl, Python and maybe PHP would be a great thing for many programmers out there.
Re:a magazine about all scripting languages (Score:1, Funny)
Why are you excluding javascript and vbs? Oh, right, these languages would be best covered in the magazines "pop-up monthly" and "v1ru5 wr173r r3v13w" respectively.
Re:a magazine about all scripting languages (Score:2)
Last "language" magazine anyone BOUGHT ? (Score:2)
Not freebies that are sent to you "for a limited time only" for the last 2+ years. Actually bought from a shop.
For me its... well not since the internet ramped up from a technical articles perspective about 5 years ago. Why destroy trees or have a big "lump" every month when an incremental approach gets you back to the site every day or so, gives you the ability to search for old articles.
PDF ? Paper ? Lets be radical, join the 1990s and USE A WEBSITE.
Re:Last "language" magazine anyone BOUGHT ? (Score:4, Insightful)
Another reason is that you can also control how much the information is shared with a magazine - while 10 of us might read the same magazine at work, if it were an online magazine, how many thousands of people could easily share the same registration - like the oft-used "global regitrations" to the NY Times?
Steve