Husband and Wife Computer Games? 69
An Anonymous Coward asks: "I have a home network, and my wife and I each have our own computers (plus a few extra). My wife has a fear of computers, and uses hers as little as possible. In an attempt to get my wife in front of her computer more, I am looking for games we can play together. My question is, what networkable games out there appeal to the female gender? Quake-like games are definelty out. Too bad Sims isn't multi-player..." I've gotta echo the sentiment about the Sims not being multi-player, however lately I've noticed a few husband and wife couples out there on a few MMORPGs. Are any of you couples out there playing games together? If so, which ones?
One data point... (Score:4, Interesting)
- Anarchy Online (and formerly Everquest). She's really into AO now and plays even when I'm not around. Worth noting is that we 'hooked up' as a result of playing a MUD... geeks in love, indeed.
- Age of Empires/Kings. The only RTS that I've seen women play, with perhaps the exception of Starcraft.
The key here is that she likes to play cooperatively. We have never found a competitive game that we both liked. I'm seriously into FPS's and she won't touch them. Again, exception to the rule: Team Fortress Classic. She plays with me as a 2 person fireteam, we support each other well.
I must state for the record that my wife is a CS major, so we both come from a long history of single player games. She plays a significant amount more than I do!
- Zoldax
two data points (Score:3, Funny)
We actually make a good team; I tie up opponents with constant harrassment while she sits off in a corner playing a building game. Eventually, I say, 'Um, dear, I could really use some help now.' She says, 'Oh, right, other players.' and sends over a massive force from her heavily fortified base, laying waste to all in her path.
What a girl.
:)
I've seen it in Everquest. (Score:1)
Also, www.neriak.com, is run by a husband and wife team, I'd assume that means they both play
Quake's not all bad, you know (Score:2, Interesting)
One thing I would suggest is to upgrade [quakeworld.com] to v3.20 and then download one of the "co-operative" patches. In this way you play together against the baddies, rather than just killing each other.
Matt
Re:Quake's not all bad, you know (Score:1)
Better to find a non-FPS game, like that Worms game - it would be perfect.
This looks good... (Score:2, Informative)
Cross between traditional Monopoly and Simcity.
Freeciv! (Score:2)
My wife and I play freeciv on out network at home on weekends when we're not bogged down with homework.
It's even better, because I'll run a server here at my place, and friends of ours can join in across the internet. It's cross-platform to.
Us (Score:2)
Duke Nuke'm (Score:2)
Oddly enough, Duke Nuke'm is a great choice. It has a simple interface (mouse and some keys) and the play is relatively simple. It's also not graphic-intense and that's one thing my wife really appreciates.
As another plus, my wife gets absolutely giddy when she puts an RPG round up my nose. Guess she appreciates being able to "kill" her husband every now and then. So long as it's never a real weapon, it's all good.
Maybe Strategy (Score:3, Interesting)
Just for some insight, what she likes about WarCraft II is two things:
First, that the graphics are kind of cute. Not tulips and roses cute, but cartoon cute.
And then, the fact that it's a real-time strategy. Just the right combination of real-time action and strategic planning.
Re:Maybe Strategy (Score:2)
We've also played WarCraft II together, but we both like StarCraft better.
I think we live in Role Reversal (Score:1)
But I guess thats the Benefits of being married to a GeekGrrl.
On the helpful side, I would recommend some of the Civilization type games. They give lots of opportunity for team play.
MAME + Kaillera (Score:2, Interesting)
You could also play on the same machine, but that's not nearly as geeky.
Re:MAME + Kaillera (Score:1)
Yahoo Games. (Score:2, Interesting)
The downfall is that all the data has to go back to Yahoo's server even if you are playing on the same LAN. Not a big deal if you have broadband but if you are on dialup it is less than desired.
You have to ease them into it. (Score:3, Insightful)
I think you should start on multiplayer non-confrontational games like those found on Yahoo Games (several people have already mentioned this).
I also highly recommend the Shockwave mini-golf games that can be found around the web (sorry, I'm at work otherwise I would provide a link). These are great because they are familiar, there is minimal time pressures, and the key controls are very simple.
Once they become comfortable with PCs, then you can move them onto more 'action' games.
Re:You have to ease them into it. (Score:1)
Let me help: http://www.blam.com/golf/game.html [blam.com]
Ahhh ... here is the address (Score:2)
Excellent mini-golf game!
Diablo (Score:1)
Heroes of Might and Magic - III (Score:2)
Don't laugh now... (Score:3, Insightful)
This assumes you have two windows computers, of course, I don't know if anyone's got a similar thing going for Linux/Mac/etc. Anyone else have suggestions for "simple games" where the computer can fill in for missing people?
Starcraft and Yahoo (Score:1)
Re:Starcraft and Yahoo (Score:1)
I just have to give some props for the old school reference.
Off to dig through the cd case....
Settlers of katan!! (Score:2, Interesting)
IRL this is one of my favorite games and me and my friends now play it over internet from time to time.
I hope you like it,
Re:Settlers of katan!! (Score:1)
Tertrinet (Score:2, Informative)
Plus, it's got extremely low requirements, so you can put it on all the machines and invite some friends over.
Simulated Societies (Score:2, Informative)
"Girl" games (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:"Girl" games (Score:1)
She doesn't do the adventure/RPG thing, so that's out. One thing she likes to do is watch me play survival horror games. Weird...
GTRacer
- My wife is cool. She puts up with my PS2 habit...
WORMS! (Score:2, Interesting)
Or, Worms World Party will allow the LAN games you're looking for.
rpg, strategy and fps (Score:1)
Diablo 1 + 2 + expansion
Unreal Tournament
CivNet
Baldur's Gate 1 + 2
Ultima Online
Quake 3
mostly cooperative
/Roger
Why is this not on the front page (Score:1)
Yeah, it's off-topic, sorta. Mod me down. Whoopee. It's a valid question. Who do I email? Cowboy Neal?
It's not a bug, it's a feature! (Score:1)
Not all stories are "front page" material.
Stories that fit in one of the sections (like Ask Slashdot) are not necessarily posted on the frontpage. One topic appears in the top-right of the default mainpage, others are accessible from the "Sections" links on the left.
So you don't have it turned off, but you have to check all the sections manually if you really want all the stories. Or just search the recent stories, because that is "all stories" too, not just "frontpage" stories.
I don't always agree with the choices. OTOH, I don't always agree with which ones are rejected either, or always with anything else. But it's better than not, imo.
Hope that helps.
Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature! (Score:2)
It doesn't appear to be in the FAQ, either. I guess you're just supposed to know. Oh well.
I think the team oriented thing is it... (Score:3, Funny)
I have yet to see a real trend though. I know one girl who loves tomb raider (decidedly big busted action chic). It might be totally random.
I introduced my wife to diablo and I didn't think she was going to like it. one day I went for a nap and woke up to her swearing because she had gotten to the butcher for the first time. Remember that? Anyhow, I think there is something that says it must be unacceptable or something because I think she felt she needed to hide it a little bit. Now she's the one who encourages weekends of sitting at home and playing long long sessions of gaming and not going out til sunday afternoon for groceries and screaming in pain as the sunlight hits your eyes for the firs ttime in 2 days
i think you're taking the wrong approach... (Score:5, Insightful)
what brought be around was when we when he snagged a little desktop publishing program. cheesy clipart, zillions of fonts, all that crap. suddenly, i could see some fun and productive stuff i could do with it. (ok, well productive is perhaps a bit of a stretch--our first project was writing a christmas newsletter. but it was fun and we did it together.)
eventually, he also got some "cute" games like bubble bobble and rainbow island, and we played them together. we raced for the little goodies that dropped down as we played. i never felt pressured or pushed, but he just put that computer out there and made sure there was stuff on it i liked and was interested in--money management programs, word processing programs, desktop publishing programs, that kind of thing. he was there in a flash anytime i had a problem with the computer, and made sure it was fixed pronto and i didn't end up feeling foolish for "messing something up." later on i started to get intereted in the internet, and he got me a copy of frontpage and some graphics programs. i made some butt-ugly webpages and had a good time with it.
and gradually, slowly, i started to become more and more comfortable with it. now we play baulder's gate together a lot, and in the past we've spent time playing diablo--i also like the sims. i'm also a web developer now, so i've clearly gotten over my fear of machines.
so i would say, get your wife some stuff she would be interested in and don't start off with the involved games, which may not appeal to her in the beginning and may require more of a commitment to learning how to play than she's initially interested in. the computer is intimidating when you're first starting out because it can make you feel stupid.
so, to sum up: find things to put on the computer that can make her life easier and more fun. with games, start off with very simple and cute games, and make sure she knows that you value the interaction with her more than the gameplay itself. go slowly and don't push her. support her efforts to do things independently on the computer (and if she screws something up, fix it goodnaturedly). and after you've spent some time doing something together on the computer, let her know you've enjoyed doing it with her. feeling closer to my husband after we'd spent time working on something together on the computer was the most powerful positive reinforcement i could have gotten.
a couple of mac suggestions (Score:1)
Oxyd, an interesting marble-rolling puzzle game, which has a two-player cooperative mode.
Bubble Trouble (www.ambrosiasw.com). This is one-player, but for some reason, females tend to do better at it (according to the documentation, and according to my one data point).
Re:a couple of mac suggestions (Score:1)
Just about any Freeverse game
Diablo II
Clan Lord
Heroes of Might and Magic II/III
Various MUDs (mostly RoninMUD)
We had very high hopes for Baldur's Gate multiplayer, but it was pretty slow, buggy and hard to coordinate, even on a 100 BaseT LAN. Hopefully Baldur's Gate II will be better. We just picked up Summoner, which has a multiplayer component.
If Battle Girl were multiplayer, we'd still be playing that. (Mmm... Battle Girl...)
I think that cooperative games are certainly a forgotten market. Surprisingly few Playstation games (and no Playstation RPGs, ignoring the few FFs which allow multiple people to control combat), and even fewer Mac games even have a nod to cooperative multiplayer.
Russell Ahrens
D2 and Tribes (Score:2, Informative)
She has also picked up tribes. I think she liked the multiplayer aspect of it. Where she can help out not so much with the getting the flag, but doing what she can on defense, and doing basic repairing/turrent farming. This too she plays quite a bit when I'm gone.
I think she has taken to both of these games because of the multiplayer aspects. Neither games are too terribly difficult. We look forward to playing Baldur's Gate 2 together when we get the chance.
Bad Part about it all:
Having to buy another desk because yours is being taken over to play tribes.
Having to buy another computer so she can get her frame rate up.
Coming home to complaints about team killers, and lag.
Side note. These games also helped her learn linux. After getting over her fear of computers, she was more willing to sit and learn the basic commands to get into linux. She now can use gimp, E, and loves most of the gnome game set.
Thanks all
peace
emk
Quadra! (Score:2)
Side scroller (Score:2)
photopc and gimp (Score:1)
old standbys (Score:2)
Sorry if that isn't hard core enough. But after a few games, just say "honey, this is boring. let's go to bed"
(Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, knowwhatImean)
Re:old standbys (Score:1)
My wife likes the educational Maxis Sim games and is playing SimAnt at home, and SimSafari at the library (gotta find her a copy for Christmas....)
William
My non-geek wife loved the Myst games (Score:2)
Civilization (Score:1)
I reckon it's because you can run more or less separate countries, if you like, form alliances, or just get nasty and pound the crap out of each other with catapaults... (hee hee)
And with the Hot Seat option, you can do this with one computer.
Oh man, I can't wait for Civ III. Yes, I am a Civ addict. And so is my wife (yay!)
A Geekess who doesn't play games.. (Score:3, Insightful)
It wasn't always that way. As a kid, I loved playing my Atari games (Frogger, Empire Stikes Back, Pac-Man etc) and in college I played alot of Lemmings, Tetris and assorted card games. But lately it seems like all the games my boyfriend plays require quiet solitude (Me: Hey- Him: Shhhh.. I'm trying to play here), 3 hands (Me: How do I get it to go forward again?) or an extensive knowledge of firearms (Me: What does strafe mean?). And you never seem to *do* anything except blow people/stuff/creatures up.
Now a game that allowed for social interaction, maybe even discussion *while* playing could be interesting. Or a game based on something I was already into (like a TV series or novels). Or one with a story or defined tasks. Any of those would be fun to play *with* him.
OTOH, my mother is absolutely addicted to Freecell. She plays it for hours on end every night. Through TV, movies and even phone calls.
So, I guess my advice to you would be to a) find out if your wife would actually be interested in playing games before you bore her away from the computer permanently, b) find out what games she might want to play by herself so she could improve her skills on her own and c) find out what games you could play with her to help her get over her fear of the computer and make it an enjoyable experience.
That's my 2 cents. And maybe I'll try some of the games mentioned already and make my boyfriend happy
Maybe something simple? (Score:1)
Granted, with the exception of BAM they are all solo games, and I'm not sure if BAM supports network play (I know that BAM4 supports 2 players on one machine), but those might be a good start.
Simple, addictive gameplay almost always wins.
It Can be Quite Simple... (Score:1)
p.s: iv'e found games based on my girlfriends favourite books, movies and TV shows are also no-brainers for her attracting attention.
For us, AOE2 was the biggest hit. (Score:1)
For whatever reason, her biggest facination is seeing little people on the screen actually doing things.
She used to like all the "Sim" games, but got burnt out on them since they don't really have objectives, other than "build the biggest/nicest thing you can make".
Personally, I loved Civ and Civ II, but the "game board pieces" feel of the games turned my wife off to them after she played them a few times.
She occasionally plays the FPS shooters with me, but doesn't enjoy them much since she's not very good at them.
Right now, we're both waiting, anxiously, for Age of Myths and possibly Empire Earth from Sierra.
Heroes of Might and Magic (Score:1)
Re:Heroes of Might and Magic (Score:1)
Larry (Score:1)
enough said
Why not make your own? (Score:2)
You can also check out the site and see if there are any completed games that might appeal to you. Many of them are quite original, written by hobbyists for the love of the craft. If you see something interesting, just download the client and try out a few games. Best part - it comes free with the development environment in case you get the urge to create later on. Unfortunately the site is a bit swamped with pre-teen DBZ fans and their endless copycat "games," but if you ignore those, you'll fine a number of fun high-quality games to choose from.
Gosh, that sounded like quite the advertisement! No, I'm just a very happy user.
How about tetris ? (Score:2)
Tradewars. (Score:1)
Together a galactic force.
What we play (Score:1)
If after half an hour of trying I still can't figure out what I am supposed to next, I will quit a game. I don't like to guess at what I have to do and explore places to find hidden levers and the like, I just want to know what to do next. When a game is frustrating rather than fun, forget it. The same thing with having to memorize patterns of keystrokes or pressing buttons.
Also, I also have a problem with rich 3-D environments. I get a motion sickness like affect if I play very long. If you introduce with a game like Quake and this happens, which it does with me, it won't take her long to hate playing games all together.
Don't force her into playing games with you if she doesn't want to, especially if she is not comfortable with the computer yet. Like people below have said, if you introduce a person to a computer and show them useful things that they can do, once they are comfortable they will eventually start using it for other things or at least be open to doing so. We did this with my grandmother. She started using the comp we bought her as a replacement for her typewriter and eventually started playing a few games on her own. Things like Tetris and Solitaire.
Re:What we play (Score:1)
WARNING: If you value your relationship don't force her to play anything she doesn't like right away.
Starcraft was a disaster, however Baulder's Gate 2 and Diablo were both very successful. We are slowly working our way through BG2 right now. I have played myself much farther ahead than we have together, so I can know where the tricky parts are so that she doesn't get frustrated.
I also agree with Heather that you should let her pick some games just for herself. My wife loves SameGnome, and has recently found the joy of JezzBall.
Mortal Kombat 4 was a winner for me (Score:1)
SMAC (Score:1)
Favorite quotes from SMAC:
'Indigenous Life-Forms'
'Faction Eliminated' (after some tickle combat)
'We sit together, the mountain and I, til only the mountain remains.'
'I think, and my thoughts cross the barrier...'
'Organic Superlube? Oh, it's great stuff! Great stuff.'
uhhh... yeah.